No Gentials in New System? Does the WT say that? (page 4)

hamilcarr

Chemical castration is rather painless. Just like the WT, it reduces sexual activity.

rebel8

I've heard of pummeling your body organs and no marriage in the New System, but that's it.

If they really said this, then EPIC FAIL. Mind control cults are supposed to dangle the carrots, not dismember them!

So the resurrected one is really just a Frankenstein's monster. "Hey, theres old Fred! Good to see you Fred. Where's your junk?"

+1

Here's an audio clip of Charlie Russell himself (from the Photo-Drama of Creation) explaining that Adam was androgynous before Eve was taken from him, and that humanity will reattain that state once the earth has sufficient population:

http://rapidshare.com/files/203629470/CTR_-_Eve_Separated_From_Adam.mp3

slimboyfat

I think this may be confirmation that Russell had sex issues.

Satanus

So, russell considered himself to be like adam, having both male and female? Hehe. A cult started by an androgenous, would be hermaphrodite. Where's the door? He was like the heaven's gaters.

S

Finally-Free

Does that mean urination will become a thing of the past? I'm bloated enough already. I don't need to retain more fluid.

W

abbagail

Here's an audio clip of Charlie Russell himself (from the Photo-Drama of Creation) explaining that Adam was androgynous before Eve was taken from him, and that humanity will reattain that state once the earth has sufficient population:
http://rapidshare.com/files/203629470/CTR_-_Eve_Separated_From_Adam.mp3

Great find. Not sure if a friend on the web knows 'ol Charlie used to teach that (I will zap her your link), but she has a whole section about this at her site. It's an outline, with references, of how the idea has progressed to the here and now, and how it will evolve into the future. Fascinating stuff. The androgynous Adam idea is tied with Jewish Mysticism, the Cabala, Adam Qadmon. I wonder if Charlie was involved in the Cabala?

A few short snips from the further-below info:

"Even Adam, in Jewish legend, was at first androgynous, until Eve was separated from him and made autonomous." - 100:11
" The midrash on Genesis 1:27 explicitly states that when God created the first man he created him androgynous; thus Adam gave birth to Eve. If man be made in the image of God, the creator himself would be an androgyne, although there is nothing explicit about this in the text of Genesis itself.
"The task of the qabbalist was to...reconstitute the divine configuration, the primordial man (adam qadmon), a goal with eschatological overtones... the Qabbalistic...aim is the restructuring of God." - 146:118,121 ("Qabbalah")

To access all the blue references links, you'll have to go to the original webpage for this...

http://watch-unto-prayer.org/new-man.html#16.C

16-C. CONFORMED TO IMAGE OF CHRIST (Androgyny/Adam Kadmon)

PREMISE

At the rapture of the Church, Christians will be conformed to Jesus Christ.
At the beginning of the Golden Age, the Antichrist will decree that man must be conformed to an androgynous concept of Christ.

God's Plan	Pre-Flood Era	Old Testament	Church Age (Last Days)>		Tribulation	Great Tribulation	Millennium	New Heavens/New Earth
Satan's Counterfeit	Pre-Flood Era	Old Testament	Church Age	Tribulation	Great Tribulation	<Golden Age	New Heavens & New Earth

PROGRAM OF GOD

Church Age (end): Christians will be fully conformed to Christ at the Resurrection.

PROGRAM OF SATANIC DUPLICATION

Pre-Flood Era : The occult societies believe that Adam was androgynous.
Old Testament Period : Pagans view homosexual rites as symbolic androgyny.
Church Age : The occult societies teach that Christ was androgynous. True androgyny is being engineered by occultists through genetic research.
Tribulation : Androgyny will be achieved through progressive genetic manipulation.
Great Tribulation : The Antichrist will require all people to become androgynous like himself.

PROPHETIC DISPENSATIONS

PROGRAM OF GOD

CHURCH AGE (end)

Christians will be completely conformed to the image of Christ at the Rapture of the Church.

For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son... - Ro.8:29
Till we all come...unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. - Eph.4:13
[the Lord Jesus Christ]...shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body - Phil. 3:21
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. - Matt. 22:30

PROGRAM OF SATAN

Androgyny is the occult's goal for mankind, their rationale being that men must be conformed to image of Christ who is regarded as the androgynous Adam. This transformation will be achieved through genetic engineering. (See: 666/Name/Number of the Beast (Third Adam) 11.D ; Genetics (Human Genome Project) 16.D )

PRE-FLOOD ERA

The occult perceives the Heavenly Adam as androgynous, with his symbols being Gemini and Janus.

"Even Adam , in Jewish legend, was at first androgynous, until Eve was separated from him and made autonomous." - 100:11
" The midrash on Genesis 1:27 explicitly states that when God created the first man he created him androgynous; thus Adam gave birth to Eve. If man be made in the image of God, the creator himself would be an androgyne, although there is nothing explicit about this in the text of Genesis itself.
"The Judeo-Christian myth and theology of the androgyny of the primal man were successfully reinterpreted and revalorized by Jakob Boehme (1575-1624). For this great mystic and theosophist, Adam's sleep represents the first fall: Adam separated himself from the divine world and 'imagined himself' immersed in nature, by which act he lowered himself and became earthly. The appearance of the sexes is a direct consequence of this first fall...Another fundamental idea of Boehme...and other theosophists was that Sophia, the divine virgin, was originally part of the primal man. When he attempted to dominate her, the virgin separated herself from him." ( 146:277-79 )
"At times, two different conceptions of the Gemini can be distinguished (as in the parallel myths of the primordial and androgynous being): the 'Heavenly Twin', expressive of opposites, fused together and integrated into Oneness (represented by the spherical or perfect being); and the 'Earthly Twin' displaying the break, the split (as in two-headed Janus, or tri-form Hecate, etc.), that is, opposites in conflict or at least in dissidence." - 48:116
“Bob Wadsworth’s newsletter of January 2001 says that the two figures in Gemini, according to the Zodiac of Dendra, are not identical twins but those of a man and woman walking hand in hand. He goes on to say, when quoting from Joseph Seiss’ book The Gospel of the Stars, that the word Gemini in the original Hebrew, Arabic and Syriac does not carry so much the idea of two brought forth at the same birth as it does the idea of a long betrothal brought to its consummation in perfect marriage. The old Coptic name of this sign signifies 'the completely joined'.”- 917

OLD TESTAMENT PERIOD

The ancient gods and goddesses were hermaphroditic or homosexual archetypes of the androgynous Lucifer.

"...to Luciferians, God has a dual nature; he is the good god, Lucifer, and the bad god, Adonay, both supposedly equal in power, yet opposite in intent... Lucifer is further divided into Isis, the female principal, and Osiris, the male principal." - 86:31
"...Baphomet [was] an androgynous (meaning both male and female figure. Satan, like Baphomet, 'is often pictured as a hermaphrotidic deity, having a male phallus an the breasts of a woman." - 625:104
"Since [Virgo] is governed by Mercury and corresponds to the number six it is symbolic of hermaphroditism, or that state which is characterized by dual - positive and negative - forces. Hence Virgo is sometimes depicted with the symbol of the soul or the Seal of Solomon (two triangles, representing fire and water, superimposed and intersecting to form a six-pointed star)... In mythology and in religions generally, this symbol is always associated with the birth of a god or a demi-god, as the supreme expression of the dynamic consciousness..." - 48:360-361

"In fact,' says Charles G. Berger [in Our Phallic Heritage], 'we are told that practically all of the gods had homosexual love affairs.' He continues: 'Not only were women offered for the use of men, but male prostitutes, sodomites, or kadhish (consecrated males), were provided for those who wished to satisfy their perverted inclinations in that manner. That the sodomites might be made more effeminate and pleasing, they were sometimes depilitated. In Yucatan the god Chin instituted and sanctified homosexuality. Tahiti had special divinities for homosexual worship." - 625:58

Pagans conducted homosexual and incestuous rites to exalt androgyny.

"...in ancient Egypt, Set was worshipped with obscene, homosexual rituals. We are told that the rituals performed for Set and Sirius were so horrible and debased 'that later rulers of Egypt defaced their temples and obelisks and tried to drive them from the land.' In mythology, we find that Set himself was involved in incest for he married his sister, Nephthys." - 625:80
"Sodomy has its own secret chamber on the cabalistic tree of life." - 147:265
"In the book entitled The Guilt of the Templars, we are told that 'the Knights Templar 's confessions show them to have been basically homosexual warrior order...' Other chargers were that the Knights Templar participated in black magic and pederasty (anal intercourse, usually with a boy). They practiced ' phallicism or sex-worship and Satanism and venerated 'The Baphomet,' the idol of the Luciferians. The crime of sodomy was a rite of Templar initiation ." - 625:104

CHURCH AGE

The occult perceives God, Christ, and the angels as androgynous beings.

"...H.P. Blavatsky's 'Isis Unveiled', Vol. II. She wrote extensively about the trinity, showing the many forms of the concept in various cultures. As with other theological doctrines, she traces the origins to India. ...she tells of various trinities. The 'AUM' triangle is shown as part of the diagrams... Every triad, Blavatsky says, has a male, female and androgen ... Eve is within Adam... They are the first androgen. I... found the same idea in ' The Gnostic Gospels '. [In] 'Isis Unveiled' Mme Blavatsky compares the Indian, Chaldean , and Ophite systems. The One becomes dual, or Father and Mother, when manifesting. From the union of the two emanates a third, which is the Son, or manifested Logos...
"Blavatsky had an idea about the creation process... [T]he male aspect of the Deity has the ideal thought for a creation. This implants a seed into the womb of the feminine aspect of Deity (Sakti), who then 'gives birth' to the Son, the Logos, The Word made flesh. She and others say that the 'Son' is actually an androgen 'Child .'" - 502

False teachers preach that becoming androgynous is becoming like God.

"The task of the qabbalist was to...reconstitute the divine configuration, the primordial man ( adam qadmon ), a goal with eschatological overtones... the Qabbalistic...aim is the restructuring of God." - 146:118,121 ("Qabbalah")
"Tony Campolo...says that Christ dwells in everyone whether they know it or not. In a recent book, in a chapter titled 'Embracing the Feminine Side of God', Campolo declares: There is that feminine side of me that must be recovered and strengthened if I am to be like Christ.." - 149:249
"...the biggest change which Christianity needs to make is towards the teaching that all men must be like Christ, must become Christs in due season" (Richard Kirby) - 10:116

Androgyny is presently being realized through progressive genetic and surgical manipulation.

"The Plan is concerned with rebuilding mankind...(Alice Bailey) " - 148:145
"The goal toward which the human species should aim is the progressive reintegration of the sexes until androgyny is obtained. The evolved being tends toward bisexuality." - 102:113
"[Josef] Mengele [Hitler's Angel of Death]...also attempted to change the sex of some twins. Female twins were sterilized; males were castrated. What was the point of these ghoulish experiments? No one, either the child-victims, nor the adult witnesses, ever really knew." - 381:70

TRIBULATION / FIRST 3.5 YEARS

The androgynous state has already been achieved in the person of the Antichrist, who will be viewed as the New Man.

Neither shall he regard the...the desire of women... - Dan.11:37

GREAT TRIBULATION / GOLDEN AGE

The occult believes that mankind is destined to become androgynous, and therefore immortal.

"To the German Romantics the androgyne was the perfect, 'total' human being of the future. J. W. Ritter (1776-1810), a well known doctor and friend of Novalis, sketched in his Nachlass eines jungen Physikers a whole philosophy of the androgyne. For Ritter the man of the future would be, like Christ, an androgyne. 'Eve,' he wrote 'was engendered by man without the aid of woman; Christ was engendered by woman without the aid of man; the androgyne will be born of the two. But the husband and wife will be fused together in a single flesh.' The body that is to be born will then be immortal." ( 146:279 )
"According to Ergina...The division of substances had begun in God and continued progressively as far as the nature of man, which was thus divided into male and female. That is why the reunion of substances must begin in man and be attained once more on all planes of being up to that of God. In God there is no more division, for God is All and One . According to Scott Ergina, division into sexes was the result of sin, but it will come to an end in the reunification of man, which will be followed by the eschatological reunion of the circle of earth with Paradise . Christ has anticipated this final integration period. Scott Ergina quotes Maximus the Confessor, according to whom Christ unified the sexes in his own nature, for in the Resurrection, he was 'neither man nor woman, though he was born and died a man.'" - 380:104
"According to Baader, the androgyne had existed at the beginning and will be again at the end of time. Thanks to Christ, man will again become an androgyne, like the angels ." - 146:279 ("Androgyne")
"[Eugene] Vintras preached the advent of the Age of the Spirit , long prophesied by Joachim of Flora, which would coincide with the redemption wrought by the Virgin Mediatrix and her predestined priestesses . In this new dispensation, the greatest sacrament was the sexual act, through which the original androgyny would be restored." - 272:12

PERVERSION OF SCRIPTURE

To defend their case for the unification of the sexes, occultists wrest Scriptures such as Gal. 3:28 and Rev. 14:4 to their own destruction.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal. 3:28
"With regard to Rev. 14:4 ('Those are they that are not defiled with women; for they are virgins') [Georg] Koepgen asserts, 'Here the new androgynous form of existence becomes visible. Christianity is neither male nor female, it is male-female in the sense that the male paired with the female in Jesus' soul. In Jesus the tension and polaristic strife of sex are resolved in an androgynous unity. And the Church, as his heir, has taken this over from him; She too is androgynous.'" - 146:281

PERSONAL APPLICATION

Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all hisepistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. - II Pet. 3:16,17
See: A Sacred Assembly * Kabbalistic Initiation *

END of TEXT from the Watch Unto Prayer website for this Section 16-C: http://watch-unto-prayer.org/new-man.html#16.C Can read more at the above link. /ag

minimus

What an informative and still funny thread!

No genitals but my question is do angels have use for ANY body part?

Homerovah the Almighty

There will be also be no anuses or urinary tracts either since in a paradise who whats to clean up crap and piss.

Which brings up the point about eating and drinking ......where will it all go ?

since everyone will be walking around looking like Barbie and Ken dolls.

Maybe we should bring this up to the JWS this might make them reconsider their efforts ?

My vision of paradise to me is god giving me a large penis surrounded by allot of horny woman with large breasts,

or was that just a recent dream I just had.

No Gentials in New System? Does the WT say that?

hamilcarr

slimboyfat

rebel8

Ténébreux

slimboyfat

Satanus

Finally-Free

abbagail

minimus

Homerovah the Almighty

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