Here comes the GUN CONTROL.

by jeeprube 154 Replies latest members politics

  • jeeprube
    jeeprube

    While I proudly call myself a Democrat, one of the key areas I disagree with the base of my party is on gun control. I believe, as many do, that the right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution. I believe that it is an important right because our founding fathers wanted to build in the ability for the citizens of this country to overthrow the government they sat up, should it become necessary.

    About a month ago people started wigging out all over the country and shooting people. We had a massacre at a nursing home, a father who killed his five children, three cops shot in Pittsburgh, and now a crazy Vietnamese guy killed a bunch of people at an immigration center. Sure enough CBS ran an extreme news piece last night linking all these incidents and asking the question of when we would see legislation that removes all these evil guns from the streets.

    Now I live in a very conservative area. We have guns for sale everywhere. They stock them at Walmart, at pawn stores, and across the street at Bass Pro. Last night my brother in law and I went on a little tour to see if we could buy some handgun ammunition. Surprisingly you can't. No it hasn't been made illegal yet, you just can't find it in stock ANYWHERE. Walmart can't keep it in stock.

    People are literally buying guns and ammunition faster than factories can produce them. Cabelas has a two to three week back order on all handgun ammunition. Bushmaster can't make AR-15's fast enough.

    I guess I'm starting to get a bit worried that the Democrats are going to attempt more gun legislation. What do you guys think?

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt
    I guess I'm starting to get a bit worried that the Democrats are going to attempt more gun legislation. What do you guys think?

    I'm confident that the Senate will prevent any of the more restrictive bills from reaching the President's desk.

  • kanootcha
    kanootcha

    Now I don't live in America, and where I live has fairly strict gun control...but we overthrew the government quite recently with no guns.

    It's called Democracy.

    Overthrowing a government WITH guns is called a coup, a military junta, an armed rebellion or a civil war...ever known any of those to turn out good?

    So, what about those countries that don't have democracy, I hear you ask? Well, just wait a few years and some friendly country will come and overthrow your government for you, then you can throw your shoe at it's president to express your gratitude when he comes to visit.

    PS. I love America and most of its citizens I've met are beautiful people, the above is satire :D

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    My brother owns many guns (kind of a hobby I guess), I own none. My father owned a handgun that was stolen, made it's way from Pennsylvania to Georgia where some guy used it to commit suicide. I shot some guns at boy scout camp once or twice. That's my full experience with guns.

    I believe that gun "rights" tend to be over exaggerated. Personal gun ownership wasn't even possible when the constitution or the amendment was written, it was way to expensive and the masses simply couln't affor them. The very fact that it is an amendment suggests that it wasn't seen as vital right but instead was added because it had to clairfy the issue (which I believe was about militias) But either way who cares? Our society has so fundamentally changed since those times I find it somewhat absurd that we would wave a constitutional amendment around to "prove" we have a right to any firearm we please. The amendment came before the industrial revolution and the mass production of hand held weapons, that alone is enough for me to say that it's time for an update.

    So do more guns make society safer? How about less guns? How about the effects of different kinds of guns? What about gun theft and the black market? Should handguns be tre In the end it's a public health issue and it should be treated that way. Let the statistics form the policy.

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze
    While I proudly call myself a Democrat, one of the key areas I disagree with the base of my party is on gun control.

    Same here. It's not even a constitutional issue for me. I would support our right to bear arms whether it was guaranteed in the constitution or not. I have the right to defend myself, or my family with any means necessary, even if god forbid that means buying a gun. I believe that to be an inherent right that supercedes anything written on a piece of paper. And besides that, gun control laws simply don't work. Only the wrong people are affected by them. You can't use legislation as a deterrent for people who have no respect for law to begin with.

  • hubert
    hubert

    Kanootchka said ..."

    Overthrowing a government WITH guns is called a coup, a military junta, an armed rebellion or a civil war...ever known any of those to turn out good?

    Yes, I heard of one. It ended in 1776.

    Hubert

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Is anyone against the bow and arrow?

  • kanootcha
    kanootcha

    "Yes, I heard of one. It ended in 1776."

    Yep, and it only cost 20 to 50 thousand 'American' lives...

    What I think is more telling is that almost every other British Colony gained their independence from British rule without needing a war.

  • jeeprube
    jeeprube
    British Colony gained their independence from British rule without needing a war.

    But did they gain true independance from the British without blood? Australia and Canada, while calling themselves independant, still are considered part of the British empire.

  • rolling rock
    rolling rock

    Good gun control is hitting what your aiming at.

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