A note?
I say don't put laws on the books that ultimately are violating a person's rights. 17 year olds have rights too.
That's begging the question. The issue is whether their rights are being violated.
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A note?
I say don't put laws on the books that ultimately are violating a person's rights. 17 year olds have rights too.
That's begging the question. The issue is whether their rights are being violated.
Im a little on the paranoid side, but can't help but wonder if placing "curfews" on teens, is a sign of bigger things to come. Once something like this is accepted as "the norm", it may be easier to accept bigger things as being "normal" too.
I'm not playing the "conspiracy card"...but one can't help but wonder what the future holds some days. please don't label me for this. Just a thought.
lurk3r
I doubt it lurk. Curfews have been around for a long time.
Thanks JD...was unaware of that. I have never been suject to one by law before. What happens if authorities catch you playing in your sandbox after 11? Geeze, 11 is early, and I'm throwing it out there that this must only be in small towns?
lurk3r
11 IS early.
No. I'd increase legal responsibility on parents - if we are going to assume those under 18 or 21 do not have full and equal rights I would support increasing responsibility legally on parents. That's how you increase responsibility. Tickets for graffiti? Give an additional fine to the parents.
Shouldn't parents be the ones to, you know, parent?
I agree. But who's going to do it when they drop the ball? Also, I'm willing to bet these curfews weren't put in place without reason. What happened in these towns that authorities felt it necessary to put a curfew in place? If your parents won't stop you from being a dumbass, someone else has to do it, especially if your actions affect other people.
I would support increasing responsibility legally on parents.
Probably spoken by somebody who doesn't have kids. Mine are young, but what can you do? I did things my parents didn't allow. My parents were fairly strict, but there were times I stayed out later than I should without permission. There's times I did things I shouldn't.
As JWs many of us led double lives. Nobody knew what you were really up to as long as you acted good when you were around them. Kids can do the same thing. So how can adults know there's even any wrongdoing to correct? Yes, the parents need to parent. But kids will be kids and do whatever they can get away with anyway.
This can be abused and become unfair to the parents. Kid wants to get back at his parents because they're being good parents and won't let him go to some big beer party. Disappear after school and stay out late. Do something to get the cops to catch you after curfew. What's an average fine? $100? Do it again the next night. And the next and so on. In a couple of weeks, the parents could be up to $1000 in fines. That may not even be affordable to some families, meaning the parents might have to work even more hours and spend less time with their kids. Their kids get even less parenting and start doing more objectionable things.
Blaming the parents is not real workable in my opinion.
They have a curfew here in the town I live in. It keeps teens off the street at night when they are likely to be up to no good. The police will stop suspected teens and make them produce ID. One of the guy's I worked with was called late on night when his daughter was caught out after curfew. He was made to go pick her up and she was given a court date for violating curfew. Teens in my town know better than to be caught walking the streets late at night. They call cabs instead. I am a cab driver so I know.
If you truly beleive in freedom and beleive you live in a free country - no - a town should not have this right