This is his first post, and already he has someone arguing semantics with him!
No, he doesn't. He has someone asking for clarification of statements that don't make sense together. When that becomes a no-no, it's time to give up communicating altogether.
Quite frankly, I am surprised that you are so quick to judge.
Here we go with the "judging" bullshit again. Did you even bother to read my posts? Futile as I know it will be, the eternal optimist in me keeps on imagining that by quoting my statements verbatim I'll be able to make you actually understand what I said instead of what you decided I must be saying. Here they are:
I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm just making note of inconsistencies in your story.
All I said was that, based on what I had read in your post, it was possible that you fit the "rescuer" profile.
I didn't state anything dogmatically.
I pointed out some inconsistencies in your story (which still are there) and made an observation intended to offer help in the event that you found it to be on target. That's all I did.
Maybe Jason didn't express himself effectively enough. But at least give him a chance to prove himself.
I AM giving him a chance to prove himself, Prisca! For god's sake, that's why I asked him questions! He posted a story that is full of holes. I asked him about the holes. This IS his opportunity to prove himself, for crying out loud.
If his story is not legit, it will come out in time. If it is, then you have been pretty harsh on a newbie.
Good god save us. There is not one single harsh thing in any of my posts in this thread.
Questioning why the girl would make up a rape story shows lack of insight into the workings of the WTS.
I didn't question why the girl would make up a rape story. I asked how making up a rape story is supposed to make her look innocent. Study it out, Prisca. Picture the whole thing. Here's what Jason said about it:
When her mother who is also a JW found out that she had gotten an apt and allowed me to spend the night, even though we never had sex, she went to tell the others, and to make herself look innocent.. the story which came about was that I attempted to rape her.
Catch that first line: "When her mother found out that she had allowed me to spend the night..." How long after the fact was this? He doesn't say, but the implication is that it was some time later, not in the middle of the night while he was there. He says, "had allowed," not "was allowing". See? It's already over, past.
Now, Prisca, put yourself in an elder's place. Here it is, some days after this incident, and the story is that he spent the night there, but the reason why is "he tried to rape me." Prisca: what's that got to do with spending the night there? How does that explain him spending the night there?
Doesn't that raise all kinds of questions in your mind? Like,
Did the struggle last til morning when he left?
If not, why didn't you make him leave when the struggle ended?
Why didn't you call the cops?
Why didn't you call your mother?
Why didn't you tell us about it immediately?
My point, Prisca, is that the girl could not cover her ass for having him spend the night by making up a story about rape. It doesn't explain anything. It doesn't clear up the question as to why he spent the night. It doesn't get her off the hook with a reasonable explanation. The question remains unanswered, "Why was he still there the next morning?"
She knew it would have been fruitless to try to convince anyone that sex didn't happen.
On the contrary, he is accused of ATTEMPTED rape. She didn't say sex happened. She said he attempted it unsuccessfully. All the more reason to ask: how does this have anything to do with him having spent the night? How does the fact that he tried to rape her explain him being there the next morning?
If I was a young brother accused of rape, and asked all sorts of intimate questions by elders,
Prisca, please go back and read again what I wrote about the questions. Hon, the point is not that the elders wouldn't ask him questions. The point is that THE QUESTIONS HE SAYS THEY ASKED DO NOT MAKE LOGICAL SENSE."
You're making me want to cry from raw frustration. Good god, woman, please, PLEASE try once to just understand what's really being written, instead of going off on a tangent with your imagination.
I have not accused Jason of rape. I have not accused him of lying. I have shown that what he said doesn't hold together, and have asked for an explanation. If he can offer one, fine. If he can't...?
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