$6,600 Expenses For a One-Day Assembly At a Fully-Paid-Up Hall? WTF!

by Room 215 34 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • tresdecu
    tresdecu

    This always sounded weird when it was announced. Even when I was plugged into the Matrix. I think most are just so trusting: "they would never scheister us, they were appointed by Jah"

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    The nice thing about donations . . . is they're voluntary. No Witness I know paid one cent they didn't want to pay.

  • tresdecu
    tresdecu

    exactly Gary....that's the one way many of us have to "revolt": no money from us!!!

  • Peaches1978
    Peaches1978

    I remeber sitting at a meeting about 3 months ago after we had a two day special assembly, and the brother was saying that even though they had the money to pay for the deficit that the brothers and sisters in the congo (spanish congo) should still give donations because if they keep using the money they have then the bank accounts would be empty faster. makes you wonder?

  • HintOfLime
    HintOfLime

    I've heard of the CO and DO and all the rest, but the COW. Now that't funny.

    - startingover

    The fun continues... Service Overseer Wife... Pioneer Ministerial Servant (I was a PMS myself)...

    - Lime

  • bobld
    bobld

    All about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.Yes they can and have rented commerical places for less $$$$$$$$$.

    What I don't agree with,how they knock other religions ( pass the money plates) and they don't.

    Than they have the gull to say"brothers and sisters it take money for lights,heat,A.C. etc,etc," Do not

    other religions have costs? Just because they raise money in a differnet way,why do the WBTS knock

    their methods.At least these other religions are honest about their methods.Not like the liars of the WBTS.

    Bob

  • BonaFide
    BonaFide

    I did realize growing up in the truth that there was always a deficit, but I thought they had to announce that to get the friends to contribute.

    Recently, though, when I started to realize stuff, I was talking to my family about the Special Assembly Day. I mentioned the cost, $8000, for one day at Norco. They said electricity and supplies are expensive for 1200 people. No reasoning there, they really think its that expensive.

    BF

  • choosing life
    choosing life

    I wish they would just charge each person as they walked in the door. "It will be $100.00 per person today to pay for the use of the assembly hall. A family of five would need $500.00 to be allowed in.

    That would really bring it home how outright money grubbers they really are.

    Maybe some would have to just skip it because they couldn't afford it.

    I've heard so many times that the WBTS doesn't charge us, yet allows us to sit in stadium seats that would cost a few hundred dollars if used at a sporting event. How special?

    Please, just charge everyone upfront so they will have time to meditate on it throughout the day. They may choose to stay home the next day.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    $600 for the actual expenses of running it for the day, and $6,000 for the Worldwide Pedophile Defense Fund.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Here's a sample expense and revenue sheet from 2007, Calgary Kingdom Hall Centre for Jehovah's Witnesses . I've highlighted a few figures. If we divide the receipts from other charities by 52 weeks a year, they receive from other Kingdom Halls about 3,700 per weekend to run the facility. They are paying perhaps one part-time person to manage the facility (21,000 per year). Facility costs are about 1,800 per week.

    Could it be that other "expenses" of the weekend include "donations" to the mother organization and air fare and transportation for the out-of-town speakers?

    E1Was the financial information reported below prepared on an accrual or cash basis?4020CASH
    E2Figures are shown to the nearest dollar.
    Assets
    Cash, bank accounts, and short-term investments4100$ 161,261
    Amounts receivable from non-arm's length parties4110$ 60,000
    Amounts receivable from all others.4120
    Investments in non-arm's length parties4130
    Long-term investments4140
    Inventories4150
    Capital assets (at cost or fair market value)4160$ 3,339,012
    Other assets4170
    Total assets (add lines 4100 to 4170)4200$ 3,560,273
    Liabilities
    Accounts payable and accrued liabilities.4300
    Deferred revenue4310
    Amounts owing to non-arm's length parties4320
    Other liabilities4330$ 33,847
    Total liabilities4350$ 33,847
    Amount included in lines 4150, 4160, and 4170 not used in charitable programs4250
    E3Figures are shown to the nearest dollar.
    Revenue
    Total eligible amount of tax-receipted gifts4500$ 9,457
    Total amount received from other registered charities4510$ 195,006
    Total specified gifts included in line 45104520
    Total enduring property included in line 45104525
    Total other gifts4530$ 1,095
    Revenue from federal government4540
    Revenue from provincial/territorial governments4550
    Revenue from municipal/regional governments4560
    Total revenue from government4570
    Interest and investment income4580
    Proceeds from disposition of assets
    · gross4590$ 3,000
    · net4600$ 3,000
    Rental income (land and buildings)4610$ 15,324
    Memberships, dues, and association fees (non tax-receipted)4620
    Total revenue from fundraising4630
    Total revenue from sale of goods and services (except to government)4640
    Other revenue4650$ 3,975
    Total revenue4700$ 227,857
    Expenditures (Enter all expenditures, whether or not on charitable programs)
    Advertising and promotion4800
    Travel and vehicle4810$ 5,205
    Interest and bank charges4820$ 298
    Licences, memberships, and dues4830
    Office supplies and expenses4840$ 1,760
    Occupancy costs4850$ 97,083
    Professional and consulting fees4860
    Education and training for staff and volunteers4870
    Salaries, wages, benefits, and honoraria4880$ 21,887
    Donated and purchased supplies and assets expensed for the fiscal period4890$ 55,445
    Amortization of capitalized assets4900
    Research grants and scholarships as part of charitable programs4910
    Other expenditures4920
    Total expenditures before gifts to qualified donees 4950$ 181,678
    Total charitable programs expenditures included in line 49505000$ 179,918
    Total management and administration expenditures included in line 49505010$ 1,760
    Total fundraising expenditures included in line 49505020
    Total political activity expenditures included in line 49505030
    Total other expenditures included in line 49505040
    Total gifts to qualified donees, excluding enduring property5050
    Total enduring property transferred to qualified donees (See the guide.)5060
    Total specified gifts to qualified donees (See the guide.)5070
    Total expenditures (add lines 4950, 5050, 5060 and 5070)5100$ 181,678

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