Elder Says My Daughter's Promotion & Job Success From Devil!

by minimus 45 Replies latest jw friends

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Calico asked:
  "Who the hell helped me find my house!" Not Hojovah, not Satan, just your helpful realtor.
  "I prayed for a husband and got a total asswipe! Who answered that prayer???" Sorry Cal, that must have been when I was running the Prayer Desk at Bethell ServeUs Department.

  NY44M: "Satan just needs to remeber that this is a long-term project and he better not give up too soon. The more he does the more I expect from him."
  Hmmm, sounds like we have a friend in Satan. Like, he must be the Santa for grownups, huh?

  B the X
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  minimus

  The thing is: they hate when you leave them and prosper some how.
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  iknowall558

  I know! It really pulls you down doesn't it. My mum got a "friendly" shepherding call from an elder and his wife about 8months ago and he ended up telling her that she shouldn't have anything to do with myself or my husband because of our views and questions about the org. at the time. We hadn't even left then! He then proceeded to relate how my husband was upsetting my children and making them cry at school by telling the teacher that we were no longer going to the Kingdom Hall. All of which wasn't true. He was making out my husband was a bad father, but he got half a story from someone else who didn't know all the information regarding my children at school and just proceeded to pass it on to my mum. Gossip....I think you call it. My mum was quite disgusted as there were other things that were said as well. She then said , "well I can't do that, because I still want to see my two grandsons". He then went on to point to two other sisters in the hall as an example, who were currently not seeing their children either and said to my mum that, although they didn't find it easy, they were still doing it in obedience with what the Bible said. He was basically saying she should be doing the same as them. This shepherding call upset my mum very much and led her to put a letter of disassociation in just a few weeks later.

  I really dont think they can see the damage they do by just opening their mouths and saying what they want , regardless of how it makes a person feel. I mean, this is their nearest and dearest that they're dissing. Do they really think that you wont take offense, but just sit there and wholeheartedly agree with what they're saying?

  They automatically assume that if you're not one of them any more then you turn into some sort of worldly , evil, monster. Yes ! Satan really is working overtime, but on whom ?.........whose words and actions seem to be the most discouraging ? Hope your mum will not be too upset by what they said.
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  OUTLAW

  Jehovah`s Witness`s will go out of thier way..To find something negative,in someone else`s success..........And..Jehovah`s Witness`s know more about Satan,than anyone else on the planet!!..................................OUTLAW
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  NewYork44M

  The thing is: they hate when you leave them and prosper some how.

  The best revenge is leading a successful life.
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  snowbird

  I can't stand the JW's.

  I'm beginning to not be able to stand my daughter!

  Sylvia
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  Chalam

  Hi,

  They talk so much bull. Always glorifying Satan and demons. Tell them to read their bibles

  John 19:10-11 (New International Version)

  10 "Do you refuse to speak to me?" Pilate said. "Don't you realize I have power either to free you or to crucify you?"

  11 Jesus answered, "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin."

  Romans 13:1-2 (New International Version)

  1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

  Daniel 2:21 (New International Version)

  21 He changes times and seasons;
  he sets up kings and deposes them.
  He gives wisdom to the wise
  and knowledge to the discerning.

  Yes, promotion comes form God, whenever it occurs. All the best, Stephen
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  sspo

  To Chalam Yes, promotion comes form God, whenever it occurs. All the best, How about demotion and firing ? where do they come from? Any scriptures? The witness mind is : if you do well financially Satan is blessing you and trying to get you out of the " truth" When you lose your job and lose your home Satan is also involved in screwing your life up and trying to get you out of the " truth ". Stupidity at its best!!
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  minimus

  It's true. They give more credit to Satan and the demons than anything else.

  My mother said to me, "Well, it's true. Satan DOES control the whole world". I responded: "Are you trying to equate getting a job promotion as being controlled by the Devil??" Of course, she backed off.

  The control these cultists exert is puzzling.
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  minimus

  Regarding JW's views on buying a nice home or car, I think there is a certain amount of jealousy that exists with many Witnesses. They never rejoice when someone does well financially or materially. They judge, instead, and they know they have no right to do so.