Isn't there an Awake! article on the dangers of not having a mind open to new ideas?
Warning - Independent thinking alert - shut down all systems
by donny 34 Replies latest jw friends
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cattails
OUTLAW the tranlitteration of God's name as Jehovah is just one version of how to represent the name in English.
Whether you use Jehovah or Yahweh, or Yehowah, or even Yahowah or Yahwah, like some Messianic Christians, they are all made up forms just like Jesus and Jeremiah, Josiah and Jehu etc. etc.
Ancient Hebrew didn't use vowels in their alphabet. At most they'd use some of the consonants to hint at a vowel sound like using Y for I and E, and H for A and E or W for O and U.
The pronunciation of Hebrew also changed over time and there are signs in the Hebrew Scriptures that there were dialectal pronunciation differences among the Israelite tribes even before the Royal period.
So to use IEHOVAH and IESUS in Latin is perfectly ok linguistically speaking since these are just representations of a foreign word into another language with a different alphabet. They are at best aproximations of the sounds and not supposed to be exactly as pronounced.
So I wouldn't go around calling the poor Spanish monk a dimwit, you dimwit.
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cattails
Oops! I did it. I really did it. I expressed my opinion as a newbie on JWN.
Not only that but I put into question a dimwitted comment by a forum elite.
What will happen now?
Will I be snuffed like so many newbies, thrown to the firy despondency of
the breast of Moloch never to be heard from again?
Where all my fellow newbies have gone to grit their teeth!
Where the sun doesn't shine and the cold of silent thoughts chills one to the bones.
Where one isn't even allowed 10 posts a day and 1 new topic?
Ah, doggone it now I've made this a "long post as well".
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cattails
btt
Why is independent thinking so wrong?
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Perry
Oops! I did it. I really did it. I expressed my opinion as a newbie on JWN. Not only that but I put into question a dimwitted comment by a forum elite.
First of all, it is JWD not JWN.... I think. This is the art of ignoring your entire argument and throwing a hissy fit over a small spelling or oversight error. You will find NUMEROUS ex-elders, circuit overseers, and ex-bethelites on this board, many of which are more than willing to "teach by example" these arts.
What will happen now?
We recently had a very nice young couple on this board question some of the conclusions of the prominent ex-elders here. Here they are at an apostofest having their thinking readjusted:
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cattails
Perry, is that you or the parrot on your shoulder talking?
"Arrgh, pieces of eight!"
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OUTLAW
....Cattails..The name Jehovah does not appear before the 14th century..It did not exist before then..........If it did not exist before then..Someone had to invent it...........Jehovah is the invention of a Catholic monk with poor translation skills..
"So to use IEHOVAH and IESUS in Latin is perfectly ok linguistically speaking since these are just representations of a foreign word into another language with a different alphabet"....Say`s Who?..You?..LOL!! "They are at best aproximations of the sounds and not supposed to be exactly as pronounced".....If a person does not know how to translate properly,they should get another job!
"So I wouldn't go around calling the poor Spanish monk a dimwit, you dimwit". ..Actually..I called Donnys JW Employee a DimWit....He worships a Catholic Monks mistake!.....And....You defend a Catholic Monks Mistake!....................The WBT$ has job openings for "JW Janitor Brain Surgen Translators"with no education in ancient Greek or Hebrew..I`m sure you would fit right in! .....LOL!!...OUTLAW
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AllTimeJeff
There is no doubt it is a mis-translation. However, Jehovah had gained more widespread mainstream acceptance in the West. Imo, that has ebbed over the last 30 years as Yahweh has become increasingly known and understood as a better alternative in translating the tetragrammaton.
Jehovah - Wikipedia is a good article that supplies a general time frame for how Jehovah got to us.
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cattails
Everyone who thinks Jehovah is a mistranslation of the Hebrew tetragram must be a dimwit.
(like OUTLAW! Since were calling dimwits what they seem to be.)
If Jehovah is a mistranslation then so is the spelling Jesus.
If you don't get that then you're not even in the discussion.
Go read some books. (Especially helpful will be those not written by dimwits)
