Hey guys: Don't think Jesus gets a kick out of knowing some people-- who he created by the way, are going to hell. The bible says hell was created for satan & his angels. Because people choose to reject God they CHOOSE where they want to spend eternity. God doesn't need to send them there- they chose it themselves. I'm not talking about the people who never hear the truth or spend their whole lives lied to and don't get the opportunity -- I'm talking people who have heard the truth and make a willfull decision to not accept it. They have that choice but have to live with the consequences.
Interesting observation:
Why is it that people want OTHER people who commit some huge sin--like send planes crashing into buildings to kill thousands-- to be punished horribly and go to hell but when it comes down to thinking what they've done in life that could deserve hell-- thats unacceptable?
We all deserve hell-no one is pefrect-- that's why out of his love for us God sent his own son to die for us.
May sound preachy but I don't like it when people think God is some big meanie waiting to zap sinners when thats not what the Bible says.
WAKE UP AND WATCH
by RickA 32 Replies latest jw friends
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Adonai438
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COMF
Adonai, you are speaking pure bullshit.
Because people choose to reject God they CHOOSE where they want to spend eternity... I'm talking people who have heard the truth and make a willfull decision to not accept it. They have that choice but have to live with the consequences.
When I was married back in the 80's, my wife decided she didn't like the fact that I was playing in a band. She issued me an ultimatum: either quit the band or she would move out; the choice was mine.
I answered her back, that the choice was not mine. I said, "I don't want you to move out, but I am not going to quit the band. Leave if you must, but understand that that is your choice; you are the one taking action, not me."
The same thing is true in your scenario. You paint the picture as if God has no choice but to torture those who don't agree with his way of doing things. What a crock. God can torture or not torture as he sees fit. The choice is entirely his.
COMF
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Adonai438
I understand how you FEEL.
But would that be FAIR?
Say someone kills your mother but when they catch the man and he comes before the judge for his sentence the judge says,
"Well I know he murdered a woman and I'm sure you miss your mom but I think putting him in prison would be mean and might cramp his style. It was his choice."
Would that be fair?
Consider this:
Assume for a brief second that you believe God exists:
There are 2 places that eternity can be spent according to the Bible:
With God or apart from God.
You get to make the choice. That choice is made when you decide how to spend life here on earth. You either live with God in your life or you don't but when you die you don't get to switch teams.
Would it be fair to God for a person to screw off their whole life, never give him the time of day, get all they want out of life without caring if what they were doing was wrong, and then they die and get to say- 'oh- hi their Yahweh Almighty, I know I didn't care about you when I was alive but now if my other choice is hell- I pick you.'Not to mention the fact that sin cannot approach God in any way, who is absolutely holy. No one can stand before God because we all have sin-- which gets back to him sending Jesus - who never sinned- to die for us so he could cover the whole worlds sin- so that whoever takes/accepts the free gift can be with God.
I'm just writting what the truth is just like the rest of you do according to what you believe. You don't have to agree with me but it's nice if you consider what I write.