Elders are given the option to send a certified letter inviting a suspected publisher to a JC in the "Flock" book.
The letter is to state the date, time, and location of the meeting, and what the alleged offense is against the publisher.
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Mickey mouse
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AllTimeJeff
Hey there Mickey Mouse, I have the guidebook of truthiness "Pay Attention To Yourselves and All the Flock"
It's full of procedural truthisims..... ;)
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drew sagan
The letter is to state the date, time, and location of the meeting, and what the alleged offense is against the publisher.
When I requested that a letter be sent to me and my wife, I recieved an extremely hostile response. He said that they don't do such a thing, and that if we refused to show up they would disfellowship us. At the same time, it was also told to me that this was "not a JC and there was nothing to worry about."
While there may be an official protocal, what stops the Elders from breaking it? IMO the Elders basically do whatever the hell they want. The "sinner" really has no rights within the procedure, so it really doesn't matter.
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core
In the US does a "certified letter" have to say who sent it? Registered post in UK does - if you got a certified/registered letter/envelope that was blank would you not write to the sender and ask what the ????
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Bethelite Elder
I understand, A few years back, we had a guy who worked in the Infirmary at the Farm (Bethel Elder). He was married to a very nice sister, and he was used on a lot of Bethel Judicial Committees. Well, shorty after he participated in disfellowshipping someone for wrongdoing and they immediately had to leave the Farm. This same Bethel Elder got caught up in greedy porn of all sorts. Unlike the others who are asked to leave immediately, they gave him 30 days to leave, He told everyone he had to go home and help his family. They threw him going away parties and did not inform the local congregation that he was deleted as an Elder. So they let him leave with all his glory because he was one of the good old boys. I was floored to see this happen because the guy was righteous over much. The moral of the story is, they make the rules and with having absolute power--they bend them when they wish. Here is a clue for the ex-bethelites---he was a shubby and educated and his wife was from another country--he was a medicine guy if you get my drift. He is now serving as an Elder again out west.
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deep-blue-sea
Bethelite Elder wrote: they make the rules and with having absolute power--they bend them when they wish.
This is in fact the way the Watchtower acts! No respect for the dignity of the brothers!
My husband received from the elders a registered/certified letter from the elders, 'inviting' him for a judicial committee. We were on vacation, the letter was held by the post office waiting for my husband to pick it up and SIGN, then the post office informs the sender that the letter has been effectively received! OK? Well, my husband took and signed for the letter to the post office on the 5th, the b......ds had announced already on the 4th that he was disfellowshipped, without even give him the opportunity of the 7 days appeal-committee (is it the way you call it???).
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aligot ripounsous
Elders are given the option to send a certified letter inviting a suspected publisher to a JC in the "Flock" book.
All right, ATJ, but is this provision still running ? There was a time when the WTS was not so concerned with court cases, so they would readily be formal, although one could rightly have found this taste for procedure stupid , as what was at stake were private, not official matters.
Nowadays, I will be very surprised if the WTS hasn't discreetly added beside its Flock book some directions to elders to the effect that they leave into the hands of potential suers as little written material as possible. That is most likely the reason why, around me, summoning to JCs has always been done during visits or even on the phone.
Apart from that, I've had my fair share of ignorant and narrow minded elders, but none of them, over 30 years, has ever been stupid and cunning enough to send a blank sheet for a JC.
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daniel-p
Apart from that, I've had my fair share of ignorant and narrow minded elders, but none of them, over 30 years, has ever been stupid and cunning enough to send a blank sheet for a JC.
Dude, how could you know this?
You just can't give it up, can you? YOUR'E WRONG. DEAL WITH IT.
Or don't deal with it. Your choice.
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Mickey mouse
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