25% of the World is Muslim?

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  • freydo
    freydo

    PM Netanyahu's Address to the Conference of Presidents Jul 12, 2010

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phRRalrbkZQ

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    What an incredibly disturbing video. This post will be “off topic” and is a response to the video and especially Netanyahu.

    How evil of Netanyahu to invoke Rabin’s name when he bears some bloodguilt for Rabin’s death, and how DARE he even invoke the Oslo Accords that he helped to derail/destroy.

    Historical context: It’s 1993. The Cold War was over, and Communist dependents have been outed. The US is THE lone superpower. The Arabs (Arafat and Assad in Syria) are in a mood to negotiate, because there is no one else to support them. Saddam and Iran would be managed through “dual containment.” However, a new threat was arising: the Islamic fringe who rails against modernity. Radical clerics begin to capitalize upon the piety of the youth, and these people are not the least bit interested in peace. In fact, conflict is the source of their power.

    Clinton is president and is using Martin Indyk and Dennis Ross as Middle East aides, scions of the US Jewish political community; these two men will prove particularly destructive, not only regarding the peace process, but also regarding Saddam.

    Israel elects Begin as Prime Minister, but he brings in Rabin, who was an old rival but also a big thinker Begin campaigns that he wants to make a deal with the Palestinians within nine months of being elected. The pioneer/victim spirit was fading. The younger Israelis were looking to technology and business to ensure their dreams, and they were looking for personal fulfillment. All these things required peace.

    It was the perfect peace storm!

    The two governments, Israel and the Palestinians, start secret negotiations in Oslo, Norway. Israel has Uri Savir. His father, Leo, was one of the founders of the Israeli foreign service. Uri was a humanist, intelligent, and believed that Israel needed to speak with its enemies. He wanted to see Israel break from its “ghetto psychology” (that Netanyahu sooo cultivates), and instead emerge as an emotionally healthy nation with robust diplomacy. He felt ( and there is incredible evidence that this has come to pass) that continued Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza would be a disaster for Israel and that with the passage of time, it would erode Israel’s “moral fiber and humanity.” Uri Savir, 1,100 Days That Changed the Middle East (New York: Random House, 1998), pp. 16-17.

    The Palestinians sent Ahmed Queri, or Abu Ala, supervisor of economic development for the PLO. Queri believed as did most PLO leaders that Palestinians needed to recognize Israel to achieve statehood. He too was a committed humanist.

    The Oslo Accords: the greatest diplomatic achievement since Israel and Egypt signed a peace treaty!!! On September 9, 1993, Israel recognized the PLO, and Arafat recognized Israel’s right to exist. The PLO renounced terrorism and rejected violence as a means to solve differences. Israel agreed to negotiate final status of a Palestinian state.

    Alas…not everyone was so happy with peace. There are those who need to foment hate/war to consolidate political power…

    “To the Israeli right wing, the accords were anathema,” especially to “young princes” such as Benjamin Netanyahu. Patrick Tyler, A World of Trouble (New York: Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2009), p. 410. They didn’t trust the Palestinians. They had no evidence that Arafat or his negotiators had nefarious intent. They just don’t like them…so everything is seen through a warped lens.

    So HERE is how much Netanyahu LOVED Rabin and SUPPORTED the Accords. He goes before the Knesset and attacks him saying, “Mr. Prime Minister, there have been examples, in this century, when heads of state have gone crazy.” He goes on to compare Rabin to Neville Chamberlain, who acted “with blatant stupidity when he believed the liar Hitler and that is exactly what you are doing.” He said Rabin “was far worse than Chamberlain. You are endangering the security and freedom of your own people. “Netanyahu then vowed to “use all legitimate means at the disposal of a democratic opposition to stop this foolish process, when endangers the very future of the country.” Yossi Beilin, The Path to Geneva: The Quest for a Permanent Agreement, 1996-2004 (New York: Akashic Books, 2004), p. 54.

    ***Side note. As this is going Syria sees the writing on the wall. It doesn’t want to be odd man out and starts negotiating a peace between it and Israel. Assad commits to recognizing Israel since he is convinced that RABIN is worth dealing with, because he sees him taking a strong stand against the settler movement, including removing them by force. It appears peace is about to break out all over the Middle East!!!!

    Back to Netanyahu…Carmi Gillon, director of Israel’s internal security forces starts warning the right-winger, especially Netanyahu and his Likud Party, to tone down their rhetoric against Rabin because they were inciting Israeli extremist elements to violence.

    One such incident that impacted the peace process is the Ramadan massacre. In February 1994, Dr. Baruch Goldstein, an American immigrant, a religious settler in Hebron (400 Jews), and a member of the Jewish Defense League terrorist organization founded by Rabbi Meir Kahane, was angry at Rabin’s speaking of turning over the “Biblical lands” (lands he feels Israel should have because God promised them). So he walked into the Cave of the Patriarchs (Al Aqsa) during Friday prayers and opened fire with an automatic weapon, killing 29 and injuring 150.

    But Gillon’s warnings were dismissed as his trying to interfere in the political process and trying to quash legitimate political debate. (Very similar to what is now happening in the US with Obama) Rabin attacks back and tells Likud (Netanyahu), “I’m fed up with your fear of what the settlers will say. You want 150,000 [Palestinians] Hebronites to remain under our control because of 400 Jews? There is a limit to arrogance and limit to timidity. I’m telling you that we can break Arafat, if that’s what you want. But then we’ll be left with Hamas, an intifada and terror.” How true those words have proved to be…

    But Likud (Netanyahu) and the right-wing keep on… They start handing out photographs of Rabin in a Nazi SS uniform (again, sound familiar????). The Kach organization sent a group of “avenging angels” to Rabin’s home, attacking his car, ripping off the emblem, and spitting on it. Rabbis were calling his turning over the “Biblical lands” a crime.

    On November 4, 1995, Rabin attends a peace rally. He was walking down the stair of the platform to his car when Yigal Amir, a twenty-five year-old right-wing extremist shoots him in the back three times. Mr. Amir was arrested and said he had no regrets, because God ordered him to act.

    How dare Netanyahu invoke Rabin and the Oslo Accords that his party's pandering to the settlers derailed, committing the area to years of more carnage.

  • freydo
    freydo

    Terrorizing Muslim Women

    By Nonie Darwish

    July 12, 2010

    There is an article floating all over the Internet, “Joys of Muslim Women,” which discusses the horrific truth about how Islam legally treats women. The article claims to have been written by me, but that is false: I am not the author. Let me use this occasion, however, to set a few matters straight:

    The silence is deafening around the world in regards to the inhumanity and brutality of Sharia towards women. Most of the activism against stoning, flogging and abuse of women under Sharia is heard from former Muslim women, like myself, and a few others in the West who dare to expose the truth.

    Muslim women have no choice but to abide by Sharia, since rejecting it is grounds for the charge of apostasy, punishable by death. Having been exposed to Sharia for centuries, Muslim women have learned convoluted coping mechanisms to avoid Sharia’s wrath. Engaging in their own form of Stockholm Syndrome, most Muslim women publicly defend the very laws that enslave them. Even Obama’s advisor on Islamic affairs, Dalia Mujahed, stated that Sharia is “misunderstood.” Muslim women end up as the guardians of their own jails. It is women who often report younger girls who refuse to wear the head cover, and some wives cover up for the honor killing of a daughter by their husband or son. Many have accepted their inferior status and wear it as a badge of honor.

    That is why there is no significant grass-roots feminist movement in the Muslim world today. Muslim feminists are routinely accused of apostasy — with its death penalty hanging over their heads. The only feminist movements to speak of in the Muslim world occurred during British colonial rule and, on a smaller scale, when the French conquered Egypt in 1798. By the end of the British rule, feminism ended inside the Muslim world.

    Many Muslims claim that “Islam honors women” just as they claim that Islam is a “Religion of Peace.” The truth however, is just the opposite. Islam does not honor women, but rather holds their very lives in absolute bondage.

    America must outlaw Sharia from ever being practiced by anyone on American soil. If we fail to do this, if we permit Sharia to creep into our legal system, we might as well say goodbye to our freedom. Here are just a few examples of what Muslim women must live under:

    [1] There is no age limit for marriage of girls under Sharia. A man can pay a dowry and sign a marriage contract with parents of a toddler girl and consummate the marriage at age 9. Recent cases in Yemen and Saudi Arabia exposed this tragedy when 8-year-old girls filed for divorce from their over 50-year-old husbands. Not one Muslim authority challenged the Saudi marriage high official, Dr. Ahmad Al Mubi, who stated in 2008, in an interview that aired on LBC TV: “There is no minimal age for entering marriage. The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow.” MORE

    http://www.radicalislam.org/content/terrorizing-muslim-women?utm_source=MadMimi&utm_medium=email&utm_content=I+am+fighting+to+save+a+life%2C+are+you%3F&utm_campaign=RI+Newsletter+22&utm_term=more_gif

    Sign a Petition to Stop Stoning in Iran!


    On July 13, 2010 Iranian officials have stated that the stoning charge against Iranian mother, Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani will be reviewed, but the death sentence still remains.

    SIGN THE PETITION

    She faces death after having been tortured for alleged adultery. In 2006 Ashtiani was convicted of having an ‘illicit relationship’ and received 99 lashes. Since this time the 43 year old has been in jail where she recanted the confession she made under the duress of the lashing.

    Just recently she was dragged before a court and retried. Again she was convicted and this time, despite the punishment she has already endured, sentenced to be stoned to death. This barbaric practice involves wrapping a woman tightly from head to toe in white cloth, burying her up to her shoulders in sand, and pelting her to death with large stones.

    WE must not let Ashtinai become another victim of the debasing, inhuman treatment of women that has become the daily reality in Iran. Make your voice count and encourage others to do the same.

    http://www.radicalislam.org/action/sign-petition-stop-stoning-iran?utm_source=MadMimi&utm_medium=email&utm_content=I+am+fighting+to+save+a+life%2C+are+you%3F&utm_campaign=RI+Newsletter+22&utm_term=22-4_jpg

    http://freesakineh.org/?sp=0+-+signatures#petition

  • JustHuman14
    JustHuman14

    This is normal to the Islamic world. I know that there are thousands stories burried like that. Even in Turkey there similar cases...

    No I wouldn't think to leave in world like that...I'm free Human and I believe in equality

  • quietlyleaving
    quietlyleaving

    freydo you really d pick em don't you.

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/02/nonie-darwish-caught-in-a-pool-of-lies/

    Also I was reading that many secular minded Israelies are leaving Israel whilst religious fundies and political zealots tend to stay on. At the same time secular jews don't want to emigrate to Israel whilst fundies and radicals do. Of course it isn't as simple or straightforward as this but there is a trend ...

    Israel has been fighting for a long time now and one study I was reading suggested that the heroic spirit in Israel is becoming exhausted and turning inwards on itself. But I don't want to suggest that any of the material I have read is anti-Israel as most of it was very sympathetic. One paper quoted lots of biblical passages to show that Jews will always wander and flourish best with a wandering spirit. But having formed a nation Israel has a right to exist and to defend herself - the trouble is she tends to mostly be the aggressor!

  • freydo
    freydo

    And then you have this - Gates: $33B Needed ASAP to Keep Military Afloat (to fight Muslims)

    (and which Congress will dutifully sign off on after some token reluctance)

    http://www.aolnews.com/article/crunch-time-for-war-budget/19554804

    and then to fix the $$$$ problem

    Obama Asks Religious Jew to Cure $1 Trillion Budget Disease by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
    Av 3, 5770 / Wednesday, Jul. 14 '10
    "U.S. President Barack Obama has nominated Deputy Secretary of State Jacob (Jack) Lew, a religious Jew, as his new director of a budget that suffers from a budget deficit approaching $1.3 trillion. The appointment must be confirmed by the Senate, which may question Lew whether he can function while observing the Sabbath.

    One story making the rounds in the United States is that Lew, when he was director for the Office of Management and Budget for former U.S. President Bill Clinton, refused to answer an urgent phone call from the president on the Sabbath, when using the phone is prohibited except in life-saving situations. The speaker-phone was turned on, and Clinton reportedly said, “I know it is the Sabbath, but this is urgent. G-d would understand.” Lew later consulted with his rabbi, who told him that the Jewish concept of “pikuach Nefesh,” or saving lives, is applicable when the president calls urgently and that he can pick up the phone on the Sabbath without violating the Jewish law. As Clinton's budget director, Lew performed the rare feat of operating three budgets without increasing the national deficit.

    "If there was a Hall of Fame for budget directors, then Jack Lew surely would have earned a place for his service in that role under President Clinton, when he helped balance the federal budget after years of deficits," President Obama said. Lew left the Clinton administration with a record $236 million budget surplus but now inherits a whopping $1 trillion deficit for the first nine months of 2010, and it may reach $1.3 trillion by the end of the year..

    The bloated budget and the troubled American economy have contributed to a drop in President Obama’s popularity that has sent Democrats scurrying to fight against a possible loss of the party's Congressional majority in November’s mid-term legislative elections. Lew’s service as budget director also may place him in a difficult position on the subject of military aid to Israel as well as to Egypt and other Arab countries........."
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com

    I am coming to the conclusion that major religions aren't really religions - but rather political entities operating behind a religious facade. I can't speak for the Far East - but when we consider Muslimism, Cathaholicism and Christendom and I guess you can include Japanese Shintoism - all have expanded via the sword and in the name of God. And that goes for the United States. They certainly have nothing to do with the teachings of the Torah or Yahushua. Not that there aren't many decent religious people involved in these organizations - but their primary focus is militarism. http://www.yrm.org/sabbathvideoarchive.htm

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    25% of the World is Muslim?

    If half of them are women, then %12.5 of the world is enslaved.

    BTS

  • freydo
    freydo

    I wonder if harsh Sharia law is any worse than letting pedophiles and other assorted criminal types run free on legal technicalities?

    Luke 12:47 - "And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes."

  • freydo
    freydo

    Those peace loving muslims

    Sarkozy Vows Revenge After al-Qaida Beheads Man

    NICE, France (July 26) -- "French President Nicolas Sarkozy vowed today to seek revenge on the North African wing of al-Qaida for beheading an elderly French aid worker after a joint Franco-Mauritanian raid to rescue him last week failed.

    Michel Germaneau, 78, a retired engineer who had been helping build a school for Tuareg nomads, was kidnapped April 19 in northern Niger. The area is in the volatile "Red Zone" on the southern rim of the Sahara desert. His captors told French officials on July 11 that they would kill him in two weeks unless France agreed to a prisoner exchange.

    "I condemn this barbarous act, this odious act which has put an end to the life of an innocent man who was there to help the local population," Sarkozy said today in a televised address. "This crime committed against Michel Germaneau will not go unpunished."

    Sarkozy also warned French nationals not to travel to the desolate desert region that includes Mauritania, Mali, Niger and southern Algeria. Al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) is an Islamic insurgent group that aims to overthrow the Algerian government..........."


    http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/french-president-nicolas-sarkozy-vows-revenge-after-al-qaida-beheads-aid-worker-michel-germaneau/19568739

    http://www.yrm.org/4-3-10video.htm

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1956058781270914781&hl=en&emb=1#

    Psalm 83

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