Wouldn't the death of three suffice? (page 5)

Finally-Free

I just had a quick look at the NWT on the watchtower site. I compared the the dietary instructions given to Adam to those given to Noah after the flood. After the flood Noah was told:

Gen. 9:3Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for YOU . As in the case of green vegetation, I do give it all to YOU .

Compare to instructions given to Adam:

Gen. 1:29, 30 And God went on to say: “Here I have given to YOU all vegetation bearing seed which is on the surface of the whole earth and every tree on which there is the fruit of a tree bearing seed. To YOU let it serve as food. 30And to every wild beast of the earth and to every flying creature of the heavens and to everything moving upon the earth in which there is life as a soul I have given all green vegetation for food.” And it came to be so.

So humans were given only vegetation bearing seeds and fruit. The green vegetation was given to animals. Like meat, green vegetation wasn't specifically given to humans until after the flood.

No mention is made of potatos, carrots, or even tree sap. Being a meat and potatos kind of guy, as well as liking maple glazed carrots, I guess there's no place for me in the new system™.

I think all the dietary restrictions, as well as the "forbidden fruit" are a bunch of crap.

Off to have a steak now.

W

AK - Jeff

Anyhow, let's assume Adam and Eve never made a mess of things and we had the same choice as them. I am sure I would have gone for the fruit. How about you Jeff?

Interesting question Cha.

Not sure. Let me dissect for a moment. What if A&E did not really 'make a mess of things' as you stated? What if this is pure allegory? Then how do we weave Jesus/Ransom/Perfect Man-God into the entire picture? What if an early Homo-sapiens group just concluded that they needed a 'higher power', a 'higher purpose', an 'issue of universal importance' to explain it all? The Greeks, the Romans, the Mayans, etc., all had legends to explain 'what happened', many of them similar on some levels with the Biblical explanation. Most Christians have absolutely no problem dismissing those other legends and mythology as 'ignorant and foolish', while at the same moment holding up the Christian myths as acceptable/reasonable/truthful. The only difference is the choice of Holy Writings one makes.

Would I have gone for the fruit? I don't know. My path and paradigm is completely different with the one the Bible says that A&E walked. Impossible to speculate under those conditions.

Jeff

Mad Sweeney

Great point, Jeff. It's all metaphor created to help people understand things that seem to be beyond explanation. I haven't gone atheist but I'm solidly agnostic at this point. Whatever made us and put us here is only knowable via metaphor. For practical daily living, we're on our own.

thetrueone

Â So, if we were to look at the bible and remove the names “God” and “Satan” and replace them with “A” and “B” (respectively) then try to pipoint which is the evil one.

.Â which do you suppose we’d choose?

God Vs. Satan

Â I’m always amazed how people declare God to be this perfect and good being that’s always looking out for us, considering all the people he’s slaughtered.

Possibly, more importantly, how many people have killed in his name due to their ‘beliefs’ in him.

Isn’t God great?

AK - Jeff

Not only did he kill millions in the past-tense. He [if you buy any of the multitudes of Paradise/Heaven/Rapture/Salvation theories] is planning on a 'kill' that will make those deaths look like child play. Death by the Billions is the plan I think.

And hell, I haven't even eaten a forbidden apple personally!

Jeff

PSacramento

On a serious note, does anyone truly believe that God kills innocent people and children? or that he orders the death of people?

AK - Jeff

Nope! God is not involved. But according to your Bible He does kill innocent people and children with great ferocity.

Jeff

PSacramento

"My bible?"

I don't recall writing it...;)

But I know what you mean.

I have more issues with the OT than I can put into words.

AK - Jeff

Well, Psac, I meant your copy of the Bible I guess. Sorry.

Jeff

PSacramento

Jeff,

I take the bible for what it is, a collection of writings by men who believed they were inspired by God.

Some of them probably were and others probably tried to justify many things as being "the will or commandment of God".

History has taught us that many horrible things were done, ARE done in the name of God, as "God's will" and we knwo them to be nothing but man's will, there is no reason to believe that it was any different in the past.

Wouldn't the death of three suffice?

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