Come all Ye' Faithful... and tell us how God has answered (page 8)

compound complex

You're welcome, Jeff ...

My thoughts are with you at this difficult time. Your circumstance is not unlike what my siblings and I have been through as parents.

Love,

CoCo

Perry

Jeff, you call those with faith to your thread so you can call them filthy names? I didn't call you a name.

You think I'm self-righteous when you are the one who spent 40 years in a God-dishonoring cult that rejects Jesus Christ and then you imagine that you have some sort of righteousness built up with God to use as payment? Whose the one claiming that they have righteousness to bargain with God? YOU.

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf;

and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

There is only one way to God. Jesus said, I am the way, the truth and the life, no one cometh unto the father but by me. He is the only bargaining chip we'll ever have.

I hope you find peace.

Open mind

Jeff, I'm sorry to hear all you've been through and continue to struggle with.

As you're aware, the Judeo-Christian God's ability to answer prayers is symbolized below:

Now, the Egyptian Sun God Ra, is a different story. I prayed fervently to Ra yesterday that he start making the days longer. I think I'll have my affirmative answer by Friday.

Seriously Jeff, I wish you strength and have nothing but admiration for your perseverance.

om

Chalam

Hi Jeff,

Happy Christmas :)

Perry, for your information - up to that point I had given God most every fibre of my time and energy for 40+ years. You saying otherwise?

Forgive me for jumping in but my perspective is you gave 40+ years to the WT and their god. Surely you have uncovered enough about them to see they they just twisted the bible and used their false god "jehovah" as leverage against unsuspecting people?

I prayed, and likely my wife did too, that I would come through the surgery and recover fully. I did.

Was my prayer answered?

Who knows.

What I do know is no-one comes to Father save via Jesus John 14:6

The WT give JWs not only a bogus Father but also a totally bogus Jesus Hebrews 1:5

They can pray all day "in Jesus' name" but they are praying to mute idols or worse Jeremiah 10:5 Zechariah 10:2

When they get to see Jesus face to face, He will surely say "I never knew you" Matthew 7:23

As a son I can ask my heavenly Father for what I need and I assure you, He does respond.

Galatians 3:26 (New International Version)

Sons of God

26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus

Blessings, Stephen

AK - Jeff

Jeff, you call those with faith to your thread so you can call them filthy names?

You insulted me first, Perry. Go back and take a look. The point of the thread is obvious, and obviously ignored by those who wish to somehow turn it around and claim that it is acceptable that God ignores legitimate people's needs. And as far as my being in a cult - so are you. Christianity is a cult. A cult of a carpenter who lived and died 2000 years ago for treason against Rome.

Jeff

AK - Jeff

That's nice, Chalam. You too, with the 'your faith was false that's why God did not answer' bullshit?

And people wonder why Christianity is losing it's grip on mankind? Geez.

Jeff

AK - Jeff

OM - I know you were jesting, but there is truth in jest. Ra has indeed shown himself to be far more powerful than any of Christendoms idol gods. At least the sun is actually benefitting us.

Jeff

jaguarbass

Hello Jeff. I feel your pain and hope you find peace and better days in the future.

I appreciate you starting this thread so we can see how others think and deal with life.

I cant prove there is a God and I cant prove there is not a God.

Same with prayer. I cant prove it works and I cant prove it doesnt work.

Personally I am going to error on the side of believing in God. Because deluding myself leads to more moments of happiness

and acceptance.

Personally I would rather be around full of shxt people who are polyanish, delusionall and believe everything is Gods will,

than being around full of shxt people who are crotchety, cantankerous misserable and are convinced there is no God

there is no designer and this miserable life is all there is.

From time to time depending on my mood swings and how my life is going, I agree with both sides.

But I am fighting to keep it on the good foot. I am fighting to cultivate and have faith.

If only for a reason to get up in the morning and get out of bed and face life.

I have had the rug pulled out on me 50% of the time and I have had my prayers answered 50% of the time.

That tells me something. But I will sweep that information to the back of my brain.

Because I feel better when I believe, and I feel better when I spend some time reading the bible.

There are things I have found I have to do to be functional and not melt down, and some of the

things involve spiritual matters and dealing with my maker Or my immaginary friend.

I have had times when I have felt abandoned by God, let down. And I have been angry and drifted

away explored atheism explored any kind of explanations I can find to explain this experience we

are all having, life. Spirits having human experiences.

In my 57 years I keep coming back to God and the bible. Maybe I dont know any better. Maybe I'm

wired and programmed that way. Maybe I'm like a dog coming back to his vomit.

But I find more comfort and peace dealing and talking with God than ignoring him or saying he doesnt exist.

The best understanding I have come to is that Hell is seperation from God.

In my experience We seperate ourselves from God. He is always there for us.

He doesnt always give us what we want. He gives us 3 answers, yes, no and latter.

And after he answers us we can reflect, digest and grow or repel and turn away.

When I think like this, I can function and a lot of times smile and be happy.

I can get my brain to make some good chemicals and have a pleasant day.

I have read the bible many times cover to cover and here and there and I am a ware like Leslie, Purple sofa says

that the bible says we are in a script that is being played out.

Thats why we have history. His story.

I try not to dwell on that reality and place it in a side compartment of my brain. The intellectuall department.

Reality can be a bitch and I try to spend more time in the fantasy part of my brain.

I make more happiness in the delusional part of my brain than the reality part all though both departments

can make endorphins.

I have said a lot to say this. If I gather correctly a major contention you have at the moment is God's failure

to have your daughter turn out in a way that you would find more acceptable or pleasing.

I will try to be as polite, loving and compassionate as I can.

If there is a God, the stories that I have read about him do not portray him as a being who

made robots. He gives people free will to a degree.

And whether there is a God or not, that is a lesson that you have to learn and digest.

For the most part he doesnt make people do good or bad. For the most part he doesnt make

People except him or not.

On the other hand he hardended pharohs heart so Gods story could play out the way God wanted it to.

And he makes one vessel for glory and another for shame.

Back to What Leslie, Purple sofa was saying Prayer is not going to change anything.

But now I am in the intellectual department of my brain and the lights are flashing reality sucks.

Wait a minute thats the little christmass tree my wife put up in my room flashing.

Any ways I feel for you and wish you the best and hope you find peace.

On the good foot. I work in a jail.

And most of the inmates are happy and accept there lot in life.

Some say I am never coming back and I only see them once and others come back 3 or 4 times

a year, they must like it. The food, the structure. Somebody telling them when to do what they need to do.

I'm just trying to say for a lot of people jail is not so bad.

Its a time to reflect, chill and decide how to live your life when you get out.

For some jail is a way of life, whole families live in the jails and visit one another.

They have tv, books, phones, recreation, exercise.

I have to fight off the thoughts that prisoners have it better than those who are free.

A closing thought if you cant accept the God of the bible try reading the Tao Te Ching.

Maybe you can find some peace there.

Chalam

That's nice, Chalam. You too, with the 'your faith was false that's why God did not answer' bullshit?

I thought your point was that "jehovah" didn't answer? I think we are in agreement there no?

As to if Jesus answer's my prayers, you will either have try Him yourself or else stay angry because the WT misrepresented Him.

Happy Christmas :)

Blessings,

Stephen

Come all Ye' Faithful... and tell us how God has answered

Galatians 3:26 (New International Version)

Sons of God

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