Mercy!!!
Calm down, now.
I just get that feeling from the "aura" that you project.
Sylvia
Meet the biggest APOSTATE in history---he started it all: MARCION!!
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Terry
Mercy!!!
Calm down, now.
I just get that feeling from the "aura" that you project.
Sylvia
Sorry, Sylvia.
Back in the "old days" I use to have horrifyingly bloodletting debates, arguments, mudwrestling bouts on JWD with Mystics.
I'm the world's number one ANTI-mystic.
A mystic plays deuces wild by refusing to stay in the real world and discussing facts. They turn to invisble "energies" and New Agey fluffy uses of metaphors as though it were data.
That's all. You just touched my...umm...delicate area.
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Terry
It is important to keep in mind that Paul's letters were the beginning and the Gospels were a longer time coming.
Mark probably took a "list" of Jesus sayings and wove a biography. He left off with Jesus burial. No resurrection.
Matthew and Luke used Mark as a source and embellished from there.
John's Gospel is much later.
Mark presents a more human Jesus and by the time you get all the way to John, this Jesus is now superman.
Gradually the story was worked up and pieced together as more than an oral tradition.
We tend to think (because we are told to do so) that it was simply disciples, apostles and such receiving diction from above.
Most honest scholars doubt any of the books which bear the names of apostles and disciples are actually by those persons.
Only seven of Paul's letters are genuine.
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Quentin
The "Bible Cannon" is elusive, morphing over the centuries into what we have today which is a large number of translations. Why so many? Then there is the history of how the cannon was compiled. For instance, so the story goes, there are four Gospels, because there are four coners of the earth. Therefor four Gosples, no more are needed. The Gospel of John is gnostic in nature. A belife system that went toe to toe with orthodoxy before being eradicated. Was the book of John a compromise?
It's little things like that which should cause one to question and question and question what is this thing called Christianity. Marcion was one of many who did.
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Terry
Psychologists have a hierarchy of emotions a person goes through when they are faced with devastating news.
1.Denial
2.Anger
3.Fear
4.Bargaining
5.Acceptance.
When any Believer is faced with the news that The Bible isn't reliable as a word for word, account by account, saying by saying record of something God wants us to know---they go into denial and then they get angry. Usually there anger is directed at whomever is breaking the bad news to them.
Then, if they don't shut the trapdoor on their brain they become afraid of what it might mean for them to NOT BELIEVE or exercise FAITH!
Next, they go to a Discussion Board and begin the bargaining try to buy back some credibility for their Faith.
At some point, if they stick with it and refuse to fall into the easy trap of Intellectual Dishonesty---they finally accept the facts as they are rather than insisting on their own meta-wishful-thinking-"facts".
That is when the real healing begins!