Should The Police Be Able To Search Without A Warrant?

by minimus 71 Replies latest jw friends

  • slipnslidemaster
  • minimus
    minimus

    Slippy, it's about time!

  • FreudianSlip
    FreudianSlip
    "if you can't handle Farkel and you think he's "picking" on you, you'll never make it into public service"

    1. I was joking. 2. I am already a public servant. You must mean elected official?

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    > I knew a lot of cops. Guess what they did with confiscated stuff?

    *** Frantically waving hand in the air ***

    Oh!!! Oh!!! Oh!!! I know!!! I know!!! I know!!!

    They kept the stuff for themselves.

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    You are quite welcome, dear Minimus... (peace to you!)!

    The local Court ruled it was considered an unConstitutional search and the client was freed.

    And the court was right, dear Daddy-O (the greatest of love and peace to you, my brother!)... if the law is to be followed. Because, based on what you write here, there was no "probable cause" for the officer to touch ANYTHING in the car (assuming your friend's friend gave up the usuals - license, registration, proof of insurance... didn't have any warrants out... and didn't appear to be "under the influence" of anything, including cough syrup...). Now, if, for some reason there WAS probable cause (i.e., baggies, balloons, heroin powder in plain site on the seat... or perhaps on the driver's upper lip - yes, some people do "snort" horse... "bad breath" and by bad I mean reeking of... well, something)... then the officer would have had such cause.

    Peace, my brother... and my brutha!

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Related. . .

    House votes to extend Patriot Act with few changes

    . . .

    The three sections of the Patriot act that would stay in force:

    ¦ Authorize court-approved roving wiretaps that permit surveillance on multiple phones.

    ¦ Allow court-approved seizure of records and property in antiterrorism operations.

    ¦ Permit surveillance against what’s called a “lone wolf,’’ a non-citizen engaged in terrorism who may not be part of a recognized terrorist group.

    . . .

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2010/02/26/house_votes_to_extend_patriot_act_with_few_changes/

  • shamus100
    shamus100

    Yes.

    Well, no. Maybe.

    I don't know.

    Yes.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    From OpenLeft. . .

    Here is the list of the "progressives" who voted for the unreformed Patriot Act, continuuing the nullification of the Fourth Amendment:

    Marcy Kaptur of Ohio
    Bennie Thompson of Mississippi
    Eddie Bernice Johnson of Texas
    Alan Grayson of Florida
    Corrine Brown of Florida
    Charles Rangel of New York
    Louise Slaughter of New York
    Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick of Michigan
    John Hall of New York
    Luis Gutierrez of Texas
    Robert Brady of Pennsylvania
    Bobby Rush of Illinois
    Lucille Roybal-Allard of California
    Eric Massa of New York
    Chakka Fattah of Pennsylvania
    Danny Davis of Illinois
    Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas
    John Conyers of Michigan
    William Lacy Clay of Missouri
    Jesse Jackson, Jr of Illinois
    Andre Carson of Indiana
    Diane Watson of California
    Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut
    James Moran of Virginia

    CPC member Pete Stark did not take part in the vote yesterday. All other members of the caucus voted against the Patriot Act

    http://www.openleft.com/viewQuickHits.do#13562

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    I notice Snowbird isn't weighing in. I bet she searches without one. I bet she's going through someone's pockets looking for gum right now. Should it be legal for a cop to search without a warrant AND take your gum?

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Kucinich voted against the Patriot Act extension. . .

    Dennis Kucinich also spoke out (and voted against) the extension of the Patriot Act’s provisions:

    This legislation extends three problematic provisions of the PATRIOT Act and, at the same time, leaves some of the most egregious provisions in place, absent any meaningful reform and debate…As Members of Congress sworn to protect the rights and civil liberties afforded to us by the Constitution, we have a responsibility to exercise our oversight powers fully, and significantly reform the PATRIOT Act, ensuring that the privacy and civil liberties of all Americans are fully protected…

    More than eight years after the passage of the Patriot Act, we have failed to do so.

    Obama proves once again he’s little more than Bush Lite. The Democrats prove once again they are little more than the second branch of the Corporate Party.

    http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/32373

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