"Do not become unevenly yoked"--weird comment at meeting

by sd-7 32 Replies latest jw friends

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    "But one woman took it even further, by saying that this applied even to people INSIDE the congregation who 'weren't spiritual enough' or didn't have some magnificent spiritual goals in life."

    I used to be uber, now I'm a fader. Just because someone is "spiritual" and has "goals", doesn't mean they won't change. Other factors of compatibility need to be considered, but are often ignored in dubland.

    I wonder if this "one woman" has any idea how difficult it is becoming for single dubs to find ANYBODY in the bOrg that draws a spark. Nothing like settling for one of the least uncomfortable pairs of shoes and having to smile as they rub your feet raw.

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    This is the kind of religious fervor that in extreme circumstances

    can make people do what they did to this young girl who fell in love

    with a guy who was not of her own religious sect.

    Isn't religion great !

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77-6OMB50Vo&feature=player_embedded

  • Mary
    Mary

    But one woman took it even further, by saying that this applied even to people INSIDE the congregation who 'weren't spiritual enough' or didn't have some magnificent spiritual goals in life. But the scripture says UNBELIEVERS, so how can you apply it to BELIEVERS because they don't happen to want to pioneer or something?

    This is not something new. The Borg has long made comments about how you should only look at a potential marriage partner who is "strong in the truth" and "reaching out" blah, blah, blah.........

    "Weak ones" have always been looked down upon as being less than shit on the CO's boots and the only reason all the 'weak ones' aren't DF'd is because they desperately need them to fill the seats. Preferably at the back of the bus Hall.

  • sir82
    sir82

    Yeesh!

    Paranoia much?

  • babygirl30
    babygirl30

    My mother used to always tell me that "As long as a man has good spiritual qualities and goals - then he will make a good marriage mate since he loves Jehovah more then you". Ok now that makes me think...what the hell??? If a man can read the Bible from the platform, hold a freakin mic, pray in front of a crowd, and comment during a Watchtower - WHY does that make him 'qualified' to be a good husband? Using my ex as an example: he had all those 'privileges' in the Khall, but what everyone in there DIDN'T know was that this 31yr old lived at home in his parents attic, couldn't hold a job (he 4 in the 2yrs we were together), had a police record and was on probation, and was ultimately abusive.

    So...that crap about a brother having 'privileges' and being 'spiritually qualified' because he SAYS he has goals or you saw him hit the play button on the stereo so the Kg Melodies could start...well...that guy is an ACTOR. Marrying his 'representative' that you see at the Khall is NOT who he really is sometimes, and THAT would be unevenly yoked, wouldn't it?

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    Excellent point, babygirl. I would say that it works in both directions. A sister who is 'zealous' in the ministry and comments and gives talks and even shows such kindness at the KH--in private, she can be as nasty as can be towards her husband. Not to turn it back on women here, but just to make the point. It's the same kind of facade.

    This is the problem that can come from spending time together only amongst the JW group, where people aren't that likely to show their true colors anyway. You can date a person and have no real idea who they are. Of course, that's not to say that group dating is evil in itself, just to say that it can help or hurt in equal portions.

    But the big problem in this religion is that spirituality can be 'proven' by superficial means--statistics, tasks, assignments. It's quantified, when spirituality is a matter of quality, not quantity. True spirituality can't be proven that way. Perhaps...I was unable to cope with the absurdity of seeing ministerial servants and pioneers making obscene jokes and gossiping to no end. For some reason, all of that was okay and I'm sure the Thought Police would recommend any of 'em as suitable marriage mates. Yet a genuinely good quality person who doesn't make 10 hours a month is seen as dubious.

    This sort of thinking worries me because it will surely rub off on my wife and she will have serious regrets about marrying me, regrets that could grow exponentially the more she's exposed to the heavy-hitter sisters out there. I just...never understood the elitist attitudes I saw in the religion. It always seemed so different from Christ. Makes me sad.

    --Christopher

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    Don't worry about your marriage, sd-7. Worrying accomplishes nothing, bro. Just be the best husband you can be and that's all you can do. Respect her. Love her. Support her financially as you can. Those are the things you can control. You can't control the dubs in the borg and you can't control how she reacts to them or to you. You can only be the man you are able to be; nothing more and nothing less.

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    Yeah, true enough, Mad Sweeney. It's just...you know how they talk if you've been around as long as I have. ... Never mind.

    --Christopher

  • babygirl30
    babygirl30

    sd-7

    Just keep reminding yourself that it's all 'superficial'! They talk....yeah, we all know it. They gossip...it's part of being a JW. They make up crap and call it 'truth'...it is what it is. If you are handling your business at HOME - then you're not giving your wife any reason to question/doubt you. Ok? Keep your head up.

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    Since these people feel they are 'matchmakers', why don't they appoint a panel of elders/eldresses in each congregation to decide who should marry whom?

    And it doesn't matter how old the couple is. They could be 18 or 65. It doesn't matter. They have to pass inspection by the panel and only then can they be married. If they rate higher than a certain grade then they can be married in the kingdom hall. Otherwise, they have to get married in a justice of the peace. The prospective marriage mates should submit his/her theocratic resume to this panel and wait to be interviewed. And then they will be told if they pass or fail. If they fail, they cannot marry. If they disobey, they are subject to lifetime shunning.

    Seriously, however, the religion instills more barriers and walls inside of their so-called brotherhood. It is so much so that the average person in any given hall must be paranoid about who their 'real' brothers are.

    If it wasn't so sad I would actually laugh.

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