Dearest NVL...

by AGuest 46 Replies latest jw friends

  • notverylikely
    notverylikely

    I can see your not writing jokes, it`s Disturbing Monologue..

    You seem to have a Penchant for very Young Children..

    Hi there! how was daycare? did you remember yo mind your manners for the teachers? Well I'm sorry the other kids laughed at you, you know that if you pick your nose and eat the boogers in public then they will do that. You know your manners and if you don't follow them you know you will treated like a baby. Now, did you get some milk and cookies at play school? No, you can't have any more no matter how much you stomp and pitch a fit. That's 10 minutes in time-out for you, young lady.

    It raises a Question..

    Why would a grown man want to bathe and dress small children,he has not fathered?..

    Children who are strangers to him?..

    It`s a Repeating Theme in your posts..A very Perverse Theme..

    Normal decent people don`t joke about or endorse,inappropriate behaviour with children..

    I know you're mad because you didn't get your way, but that's just how it is. You can stomp your feet and say I'm not your daddy and you're going to run away and join the circus all you want, but all that's going to do is earn you an extra nap and lose your cookies for your snacky time. If you want to act like wittle bitty baby then you will continue to get treated like one. If you want to join the circus you can just act like a clown here just like you have been doing. Just remember, when you stop acting like a wittle bitty baby you won't get treated like one. Now off to your time out.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    Let the record show that Mad Sweeney tried to put the brakes on this trainwreck of a thread...

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    Just popping in to show support for AGuest and Outlaw - two respected and civil posters.

    Sylvia

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    I feel kind of slighted now, Syl. Just thought I should let you know that.

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    Please don't, Mad Sweeney.

    I admire you for offering the olive branch.

    (((((((MadSweeney)))))))

    Sylvia

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    MadSweeney..

    You did your best..Good for you!..

    Sylvia..

    Your a Sweetheart!..

    ......................

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Dearest Peaches… the greatest of love and peace to you! Certainly no need to apologize to me, either! I, too, have “spoken without knowing,” on occasion. No offense intended when I did, and I’m sure none with you, as well. Again, peace to you!

    Ah, dear NVL… you wish to continue. So be it… and, again, peace to you.

    You've given the run around, special pleading for each case, yet you never answer then question. I will re-state for simplicity.

    I have responded. Multiple times. That you can’t even hear ME… gives me GREAT insight into why you can’t hear the Most Holy One of Israel speak (which, as I’ve stated, He does through His Son…). But let’s take your question one… more… time…

    Why does god/jesus, who obviously can manifest himself physically and force people to acknowledge him when he want, whether or not that person is seeking god/jesus or has the right heart condition, seemingly ignore the vast majority of people in the world?

    The operative word here is “seemingly,” dear one. As He said to you… and when you refused to hear, had me QUOTE to you: becauseof the error on the partofthe vast majority of people in the world.” This means, for some, palms polluted with blood. For others, the error of their fingers. And/or lips that speak falsehood. And/or tongues that keep muttering sheer unrighteousness. Apparently, you are included in there somewhere. Right here and right now… only you… God… and Christ… know where and how.

    We have the examples of Adam, Moses, Neb, Balaam, all the people that just saw Jesus walking about, eating, running into him on the side of the road, Thomas, Paul, etc.

    We do. Yet, these were not the “vast majority” but the minority, were they not, during the times they lived in?

    Are you are telling me that god shared special insight with you about me?

    God, no, not quite. His Son, my Lord… with regard to why you didn’t hear, and that you subsequently refused to hear, yes.

    What did he share with you, specifically?

    Again, why you didn’t hear (you didn’t expect you would). Why you don’t hear (your hard-head and hard heart). That He did indeed speak to you (and told you your error so that, if you WANTED to, you could correct it and so hear Him even better). That you refused to hear (when He told you, so that His Son had me post it)… and will do so, yet. But only for a time.

    Or did he NOT share since you just said you don't have any insight into me?

    He did not share the details of your error… or anything personal about you. Such things are none of my business. And I am not a psychic, but merely a servant. So I don’t know or care to know about them.

    I don't think that you think you are better than others on a conscious level

    Yet, that’s not what you say below…

    but it's clear that you think you have the right stuff to have God choose you as his messenger….

    Dear, dear, NVL… it had absolutely NOTHING to do with what I think or thought about myself. Surely, you can understand that. It simply happened because I responded WHEN He called. And He chose me… by means of His Son choosing me… simply for that reason. I showed a little faith. And isn’t that what He’s always said it would take?

    True, it WAS my choice to HEAR… and RESPOND. And I have chosen to walk as His servant, through Christ. But the resultant choosing has nothing to do with the one “running.” So, it absolutely had nothing to do with me… or what I believe about myself, per se. Which, if you want to know the truth, would be… given MY sins, MY imperfections, MY errors… I should be among the LAST to ever BE chosen. But I was… due to Undeserved kindness… MERCY… and not because of something about myself. So, surely you must understand why I love them… and obey their very kind and loving directions. I heard… and answered. Then. I heard… and obeyed. Now. That’s really all it took… that’s all it really ever takes: just a very tiny little bit of faith… according to my Lord, “the size of a mustard seed”.

    and it's clear that you think you can divine why others don't.

    I am neither a diviner, a psychic, or a medium. I can divine nothing. And I don’t even try. I merely heard. Then, I stated to you what I heard.

    Whether you choose to admit it or not that is hubris and arrogance, to think that you are special and can tell others why they are not.

    I don’t think I am special. Far… far… from it. I’m at the LOWLY end of the table, dear NVL. Trust me. A chamberpot-emptier in the House of God… and nothing more. Which, to me, isn’t bad – so long as I am IN the “house,” you know? So, I’ll do some “dirty work.” Like this, even.

    And I cannot tell you that you are not special… nor have I. Because that would be a lie – you are indeed “special” to the Most Holy One of Israel, JUST by virtue of your profession to be a seed of Abraham, by means of his [son] Judah. I do not know if that is by actual blood… or by a “going with” on the part of your ancestors. Doesn’t matter, though; you claim to belong to Abraham. As do I. And ALL of Israel is special to the Most Holy One OF Israel… because of His promise TO Abraham.

    Indeed, I can’t tell anyone why they are “not special.” What is that, really? Someone tells you the truth… and you translate that into them thinking they’re special… and that you are not. What is up with that with you? It is a common theme in virtually everything you’ve posted thus far: you are angry at God, the Most Holy One of Israel… okay, I get that… because you believe He isn’t speaking to you… I get that… which makes YOU believe you “aren’t special.” And, yet, I have openly stated to you… TRUTHFULLY… that He does INDEED speak to you. You are the one denying it, dear NVL. Not me. YOU are the one who believes you “aren’t special”… because the Most Holy One of Israel hasn’t, what… burned a bush in front of you? YOU are making that claim. Not God. Not Christ. Not me.

    You already said that at some point I must have asked sincerely, but now you say I didn't. But that I did at some point so instead of giving me the answer God/Jesus talked to you about it rather than me.

    That is not what I stated. I stated that you did… and so HE did… but then you REFUSED to hear… because you didn’t like WHAT you heard. First, you didn’t hear because you didn’t expect that you would. In that instance you received exactly what you hoped for: nothing. But, because of the TRUTH of that, apparently, you actually asked. And He responded. And rather than turning your ear and LISTENING… you dismissed Him. Why? Because you couldn’t handle what you heard.

    I am asking you why and you keep pointing the finger at me rather than answer the question.

    That’s because YOU… are… the answer… to your question, dear one. The “why”… lies with YOU.

    Your answer in contradictory to the many example I have provided from the Bible. I am asking you why and you keep pointing the finger at me rather than answer the question.

    Please, see above. Maybe, if YOU would point your finger at you… and stop pointing it at the Most Holy One of Israel… you would SEE… as WELL as hear…

    No, they just run counter to the many examples from the bible, which is what I am asking you to explain.

    The “many” examples that you refer to are, again, the minority. You fail to mention the MANY times the Most Holy One of Israel made others hear… in a manner that wasn’t so great. Which is what I am trying to help you avoid. But those examples are in there, too.

    Whoa, back up there Moses. I thought you were just relaying God's message? Is it now YOUR answer I am rejecting?

    What? Well, yeah, I guess it’s was actually both… but not the same answers. You rejected mine, from the start… and His, once you asked Him and He responded to you.

    I have read and examined every answer you posted. Yet they don't match up with the examples in the bible. I am asking you why and you keep pointing the finger at me rather than answer the question.

    Oh, stop. Name one that “didn’t match up.” As for your question, again, see above.

    There you do again, thinking you know more than you do. I am a jew by accident of birth only. I have never been to synagogue or had more than a passing conversation with a Rabbi.

    That is exactly what I meant. Just because one goes to a synagogue or converses with a Rabbi doesn’t make one a Jew. And I never considered that you meant that. I took it that you were a Jew. Literally. Now, true, one could become a Jew, yes, by following such traditions. One is also a Jew, however, by means of birth. Whether by accident or on purpose. I am a Jew… by birth… but not by tradition. I am of the tribe of Ben-JAH-min, which tribe joined with Judah to form the 2-tribe kingdom of Judah. But… so what? We are both Israel… by birth of the flesh. I am also Israel, however… by “birth” of the SPIRIT, which, for me, has been conceived but not yet “born.” You, obviously, are not… yet… as you have not yet learned to listen to the One by means of whom such “birth” is possible. I am merely his servant…

    Why do you think you know me when you clearly don't?

    Two (2) reasons: first, the blood of God, holy spirit, which “blood” I have received from His Son and Christ, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH… and which blood speaks. Second, now, the blood of Abraham, which apparently we share… and which blood also speaks. As did Abel’s blood. As does all blood. (As an aside, I have to say, again, makes your accusations against me really are sort of peculiar, because I am not the one who saying God isn’t/doesn’t/won’t/can’t speak to you – YOU are. But, ah, well, let's not look at THAT truth…)

    if at some point I did ask the right way, why did god talk to you rather than me? you yourself said that if I asked the right way god or one of his reps would talk to me.

    The Most Holy One of Israel DID speak to you. Again, you refused what He had to say. And His “rep”… is Christ. Who you also refuse to listen to. C’mon, dear NVL… stop this. In all of what you said here, and you have said a LOT… you have not said the one most important thing: that He DIDN’T speak to you and tell you the very things He had me post. That you DIDN’T hear those things directed to your. He did… and you did. And so, NOW, you no longer want to know WHETHER He speaks… but why He “used” me. I have told you, in truth: because you refused to hear what He was saying TO you… ABOUT you.

    And I have told you another truth: that it doesn’t have to be that way. So, again, I bid you peace... and EARS… TO hear… if you TRULY wish it. And just sayin’ you wish it… doesn’t MAKE it so.

    YOUR servant, as I am servant to ALL those of the Household of God, Israel, and those who go with… and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Dearest MadSween... peace to you! And please know that you efforts are and were duly noted. Thank you for them!

    Dearest PSacto... peace to you as well... and if our Lord manages to get through by means of you... then praise JAH! So long as he gets through, right? Hopefully, dear NVL will not remain obstinate too long, but include his/her ear and actually consider what I've been directed to share... and start looking in the mirror a little more... both the mirror of his own reflection... and that of God's, which mirror is Christ... so that he/she can receive what they say they're asking for. It all remains to be seen, doesn't it?

    My dear sister, Syl, and dear Outlaw... thank you, both. Always. And, as always, may the undeserved kindness and mercy of my God and Father, the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies, and the love and peace of His Son and Christ, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, be upon you both... and your entire households... to time indefinite.

    Again, peace to you all.

    Your servant and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • tec
    tec

    Shelby -

    I don't think you're being unclear in any way. I just wanted you to know that I can hear what you are saying, and express my appreciation of your posts. I sent you a pm.

    Tammy

  • tec
    tec

    NVL - If you're sincere, then I hope you find the answers you need to have peace. (if you are looking for that)

    If you're not sincere, then I hope you're speaking with Shelby with the understanding that she IS sincere, and is trying to help you.

    Tammy

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