Dearest NVL… may you have peace! My apologies for taking so long to post but I only had a few minutes or so free today and I didn’t want to rush. You now have my undivided attention.
I hear you.
Unfortunately, given your latest response to dear Tec… I have to say that I disagree. I neither gave you non-answers (I not only gave you answers, but thorough answers, and I am not the only one who answered you… thoroughly). Nor did I frame you in a bad light for asking the question(s). The answer itself may have made you SEE yourself in a bad light… but, then, I also told you TRUTHFULLY that looking at oneself IN TRUTH tends to do that.
I have examined every response you have given.
Methinks not. Not examined, least ways…
I hesitate to call them answers because they have yet to provide any answers.
Not true. They have absolutely provided answers. Because SOME here have GOTTEN those answers. You, though… still haven’t. Why IS that, exactly? Besides at least 3-4 other reasons, which are stated in the “answers” provided you… you have yet to receive the answer YOU WANT TO HEAR (for example, “Look, see there, NVL! THERE is God! Standing right there!” as you turn you eyes of flesh and look to “see”). Not that I didn’t say “Look, there!” I did. Only “there”… is Christ. And so, again, I say to you, “LOOK! THERE!”
I have re-stated the question multiple times and have yet to get an answer.
You have indeed re-state the question(s) multiple time. First, in the hopes that you can throw folks off, making them think you’re asking because you didn’t receive an answer. You did, however. Second, in the hopes that the answer will “change”… so as to fit the “frame”… and paint you in the “light”… YOU want it to. As you can see, it hasn’t. But there’s even an answer to that: because the TRUTH… doesn’t change. Even if/when we want it to (do you hear that, WTBTS??).
I will, at this point, be forced to conclude that you either can't or simply won't answer since you have prevaricated and not given answers based on the many examples I have provided that disagree with your responses.
Ummm… not only will your “if can’t dazzle ‘em with brilliance baffle ‘em with BS”… BS change the fact that what you asked was in fact answered, by me, then by the Most Holy One of Israel, then by Christ, who “sent” me… and then by me again. Not one of the examples you provided disagrees with the response as to why YOU didn’t/can’t/don’t hear the Most Holy One of Israel. YOU are the reason why. It’s been said close to, what, 20 times now. Why doesn’t the Most Holy One of Israel speak so that YOU can hear Him? He does and did. You didn’t hear because you didn’t expect that you would. You DON’T hear now… because you refuse. THOSE are the answers to EVERY question you’ve raised.
And the statement you just made poses another question. Does god ALWAYS speak through his son?
Speak to whom? At one time, He spoke to ISRAEL through Moses. After that, He spoke to Israel through the Prophets. But… He spoke to the Prophets… and Moses… through His Son. NOW… He speaks directly through that Son. No Moses. And, for the most part, no prophets. IF and when the one being spoken to LISTENS to the Son. Sometimes, because the one being spoken to doesn’t LISTEN to the Son… OR because the message calls for it… the Son speaks through one of his angels… or one of HIS servants. Some of these servants we know as “apostles.” Others aren’t really anything other than run-of-the-mill sundry servants…
If so, who was the angel that spoke to Balaam? Who's voice was that speaking at Jesus baptism?
I do not know the name of the angel that spoke to Balaam. Or the one that wrestled with Jacob. The name of the one that gave John his revelation is Michael. It was the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies Himself, that told those present when my Lord came up from the Jordan to LISTEN to that One. There are occasions, albeit rare, when the Most Holy One of Israel speaks directly. I have heard His voice 5 times thus far. It was the FIRST voice I heard when He and my Lord called me.
Balaam and Neb were bloodguilty and yet heard/saw god's message.
I think you are meaning Belshazzar, Neb’s son… and yep… those are a couple of the examples I was referring to when I said certain ones forced a manifestation, which wasn’t really a good thing in either case...
Pharoh had a dream sent by god which Joseph interpreted. He was neither righteous nor seeking god. Why did they get the message at God's convenience? That is the question you are not answering.
Oh! I am sorry, I did not see/hear/know you to be asking that specific question! Because Israel was going to need to be saved. There was going to be a famine throughout the entire “known” earth (i.e., the entire Egyptian empire, which was quite vast at that time)… and Israel (Jacob) would experience it. In order to save Israel (because Judah was carrying the seed – Christ)… the Most Holy One of Israel had to make a way for them to survive that famine. So, He sent Joseph ahead into Egypt. But Joseph’s just being in Egypt was of no value – he had to be a position of authority in order to be able to ensure that Israel survived. So, the Most Holy One of Israel gave Pharaoh a dream… then gave Joseph the interpretation. Because of this, Pharaoh not only placed Joseph in charge of preparing for the famine, but made him second in the land, subject only TO Pharaoh.
This entire chain of events, however, serve a greater purpose: they depict for us the relationship between the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies, and His Son, the Holy One of Israel, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH. Just as both Israel and Egypt had to go to Joseph in order to get grain for bread during the famine… even though it was Pharaoh’s grain… WE have to go to Christ in order to get spiritual “bread” (because he IS the “manna” – the bread that came down from heaven)… to get holy spirit… although it is God’s spirit. Just like Pharaoh made Joseph second in the land, with fully authority over EVERYONE… except Pharaoh himself… the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies… has conferred FULL authority upon Christ… in heaven AND on earth… with the exception of the Most Holy One Himself.
And that really is the answer. Truthfully.
To use a play from your book, "concsious level" was the operative phrase. You might noit think you are, but your actions and words belie it.
Well, okay. I can “see” how you would believe that… from a fleshly standpoint. I appear foolish to you… and I am, dear one. A foolish thing, indeed. Of God. But make no mistake: I KNOW I am a foolish thing. I am FULLY aware and conscious of it. It is not unknown to me, at all. Truly.
Just because something is in the minority doesn't mean it isn't important.
You certainly don’t have to convince ME of that, dear one!
I am just asking you questions. I am not rejecting your answer because you have yet to provide one. When someone asks "What's 2+2 equal?" a valid answer is NOT "Let's talk about the poor grammar you used when phrasing the question." That's specifically NOT answering. That's the equivalent of what you are doing.
So, seriously. I AM answering your questions. Not me only, but the Most Holy One of Israel Himself has responded to you. Unfortunately, you are SO caught up in having not heard the answer you WANT to hear… that you continually reject what you DID hear. You asked: “What does 2 + 2 equal”? and I responded, “4”. You responded, “I didn’t hear anything.” I responded that, per my Lord, you didn’t hear the response because you didn’t EXPECT to hear the response.
And you took that into consideration and asked the Most Holy One of Israel Himself. And the Most Holy One of Israel responded, “the answer is 4.”
But then you REFUSED to hear that answer (because you didn’t want to hear that “4 – 0 = 4”… or “0 + 4 = 4”… or “3 + 1 = 4… or “1 + 3 = 4”… that no matter how you ADD IT UP… it equal 4… but rather that ONLY “2 + 2 = 4”… which isn’t true). And so, I repeated for Him, as I was directed by my Lord, that “the answer is 4, but that you don’t get that is on you.”
And rather than stop and say, “The answer IS 4… and IS the same as 1 + 3, etc.… which I didn’t get”… you STILL don’t get it. Why? Because, what you WANT to hear is “Well, NVL, 2 + 2 IS 4… and so is 3 + 1, and 4 – 0… but that you don’t get it, even though it’s elementary as all get out… is not YOUR fault. No, it’s the way GOD is saying it.”
You haven't answered why god/jesus only appears at their convenience, even to people that have hard hearts against god, such as Pharoh or Balaam or Neb or Saul, when others who are seeking him get no response.
I have indeed answered that. More than once. But, again… WHY the Most Holy One of Israel… and/or His Son… appear at “only their convenience”… even to people who have hard hearts against [Him]… when others seeking Him get no response is:
1. As to the hard-hearted… it is so that they will KNOW (and that really is NOT a good thing!)… that He IS the Most High God. But, such ones really don’t want to know that – not really…
2. As to those SEEKING Him… He appears… THROUGH HIS SON… to ALL those who TRULY seek Him… out of a true WANT. Not a stated want (i.e., “Hmmm, lemme see… yeah, I wanna see God, sure”). Not a “well-yeah-I-sorta-kinda-think-I-may-think-I-might-but-wait-not-if-it’s-going-to-make-me-look-sound-be-beconsidered-weird-crazy-foolish-or-make-me-lose-my-job-wife-credibility-gloryfrommen-mind… kind of want.
There has to be NO doubt, dear one. NONE. Which is why my Lord told Thomas that those who believe but do NOT see… would be “happy.” Why? Because such FAITH… would RESULT… in their SEEING. THAT is the “happy” he spoke of.
And ALL those who see Christ… see God… dear one.
God/jesus/an angel made personal appearances in those cases, why not when other are seeking him?
Please... see above.
Your answer was that they aren't asking the right questions
Er? I could be mistaken, but I don't think that was my answer...
but the examples I provided...they weren't asking any question.
Forgive me, but it's 1:30am and I am kind of punchy. Who said some question has to be asked?
If someone is seeking god but not asking the right question, why wouldn't god/jesus or an angel make an appearance and help them?
One, I am not sure what "right question" you're referring to. Second, there is no excuse for not asking the right question (which has nothing to do with the particulars of this thread, but...), because you KNOW the right question. Right? Because that question… is in ALL of us. Every ONE of us. What question? " Is there a God"? No. You know the answer to that question. The question you... and virtually every human being asks... even atheists at some point... is:
AM I A “SON” GOD? IS GOD MY FATHER?
Problem is… the answer to THAT… indeed, even allowing oneself to ASK it… will make one call into question one's sanity, won’t it? Make YOU call into question who... and what... you are. Right? And you don’t WANT to ask THOSE questions (who and what you truly are)… do you? Because to do so… and, even more... to possibly HEAR the answer... although you ALREADY KNOW… would be too much for your flesh to handle. Your flesh… that has been misled… misguided… lied to… cheated… enslaved… and more. Why put your flesh through all of that? No, better to leave THAT question alone and just "get on with life." Right?
But I say to you: ASK it, dear NVL. And all those who are watching this "discussion." ASK it. And then LISTEN to… and put FAITH in… the answer you receive. I promise you… IF YOU ASK IT… you WILL get an answer. Indeed, t he one you already KNOW… but are afraid to ask… and hear. Because KNOWING it… will change... EVERYTHING. Won’t it? Because you WILL get the answer you "hope" for.
Why does god ignore the vast majority?
He answered that… and, when my Lord directed me, I posted that answer.
Pointing the finger back at the person asking the question is NOT an answer.
Sure it is. If the person is asking is the answer...
That's evading the question since the examples I am providing for you clearly illustrate that asking for god's guidance or seeking him is not required in any way to get a personal appearance and help.
Wait – it’s okay for YOU to answer your question by pointing a finger (at the Most Holy One of Israel)… but it’s not okay for HIM to answer that same question… by pointing a finger back at YOU? Seriously?
So why have you been wrong about me so many times, then?
Wrong “so many times”? How so? As to your [possible] gender? One way or another... I don't think that's true...
Is the blood not speaking accurately?
It’s accurate.
What exactly is this blood telling you?
One, that you are angry at the Most Holy One of Israel. But that you do believe... no, know... He exists. Two… that to answer anything more would require me to do so via PM.
Secondly, are you saying that all races inherently share emotional and spiritual traits?
You know, I have never even thought of it until you asked… but the answer from my Lord is… yes, that is true.
Or physical traits?
Actually, I knew that one: yes.
Not, let's do look at it. God hasn't spoken to me.
(Smile) You're expecting me to ask, "Are you sure?" But He has, dear one. I'm sure.
Therefore he won't or can't.
He can… and has.
You have said that he won't because I am not asking in the right way.
I have never said He won’t. YOU are the one saying that. I am saying… have said… and will say yet again… that He not only WILL speak to you… but HAS. EVEN though you may not be asking in the “right” way (although, I didn’t say that either… which only confirms for me that you truly DON’T hear me…). It is not your asking that prevents you from hearing. It is your EXPECTATION [of nothing]… and REFUSAL to hear when He DOES speak… by not listening to the One through WHOM He speaks… that prevents you from hearing.
You have also said that at some point I MUST hast asked the right way because god gave you a message to give me. So another question is why didn't god just talk to me directly?
I stated "in sincerity." The "right" way... would be through His Son. But He DID speak to you directly... through that Son, dear NVL. And you refused what He told you… because you didn’t “like” what you heard.
When?
Apparently, sometime right after our interchange where I told that you didn’t hear because you didn’t expect TO hear. Anywhere from immediately to s omewhere between Friday evening/night/early Saturday morning. Or perhaps, throughout that timeframe (i.e., more than once)?
What date?
May 1, 2010…
What was I doing?
You were about to fall asleep… but kind of afraid to, without going to the Most Holy One of Israel at least one more time. Per my Lord, you “heard” what I posted to you… and, just after asking yourself “What if” what I had shared with you was indeed true… said a "prayer" and asked "God" to “show you” what you "needed to know"… and see. You told him that you DID believe He existed... asked Him what was “wrong” with you that YOU didn’t see and hear Him… if He really WAS “there” and told Him that this was the "last" time, that if He didn't... "do something?"... you were no longer going to believe...
How do you know this?
My Lord told me. And my heart breaks for you… because I know you are sincere… and what you are going through in your “search” for Him. I know because my Lord knows... which is why he directs me to continue with you. But, truly, dear one… it does lie with you. It IS your choice.
And you can CHOOSE… to STOP “cursing” God in your heart (yes, I know you don’t mean to, and so does He… but when you get angry, you do… )and realize that it is NOT Him that is causing the division… but you... so that you can begin to LISTEN. Doing the former, you are putting a “curtain” between you and Him. By means of your anger (and that false accusations that come out of such anger... and confusion)... you are making your heart "hard." Which is carrying over to your flesh. But it is your SPIRIT that you risk "sinning" with. You have grown impatient “waiting” for Him to answer you… and reveal Himself to you… but every time He DOES… YOU turn away. You do this… because you don’t want to “see” what He has to show you… about yourself.
Because it’s hard to see. Trust me - I know. Remember, I confessed to you that I am a foremost sinner. But I am not speaking of the… ummmm… things… related to the flesh. I am speaking of the things related to the SPIRIT that he will show you. Things like anger, hatred, jealousy, hypocrisy, deceit, etc. But it doesn’t have to be that way. You can be a “sinner” in the flesh, dear one. The Most Holy One of Israel is not concerned with your flesh; He knows we are made of dust and so the flesh is of NO use at all. It is how you sin… WITH YOUR SPIRIT… that is of concern.
But I PROMISE you… if you would just ALLOW yourself to listen… and look… you WILL get past all of that. You WILL push through it. And come out on a side SO glorious… you will almost want to beat yourself for not having done it sooner. But you have to KNOW… have an ASSURED EXPECTATION… that He will speak to you… through Christ… whose voice you would come to know if only you allowed yourself… and you will hear. And not refuse what you hear when He does.
And no, I don’t mean things like burning your baby in the oven. The Most Holy One of Israel would NEVER tell you to do such a thing. The things in “the Bible” that give that impression are LIES… and one of the reasons that my Lord came: to bear witness to the TRUTH about the Most Holy One of Israel… who is slow to anger… merciful… and ABUNDANT in loving kindness!
I truly don’t mean to sound cliché (because I HATE it when people just throw out this particular statement but don’t really know the true fulfillment of it), dear one… but the Most Holy One of Israel DOES love you. You particularly, if you truly are Israel… because Israel IS His love… by means of His love for Abraham. Those who have Abraham’s blood are VERY dear to Him… even when they are dull in their sensibilities… and their hearing. Unlike earthling man, the love of the Most Holy One of Israel… NEVER fails.
We KNOW that… because we have His Son… my dear, dear… dear Lord… the Holy Spirit and Holy One of Israel, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH… to show us. Even in the fact of death, he remembered… and showed love to… his enemies. Rather than asking for some kind of vengeance to come upon them… he asked that they be forgiven. Because THAT truly IS the kind of “person” he is… and the kind of person the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies… truly is.
I don’t state this to continue the cliché. I state it because I have had the privilege of coming to know them… intimately… and it is the truth.
If god spoke then why didn't I hear?
You heard, dear one. You just didn’t accept what you heard. The question is not, "IF God spoke why didn't I hear?" but "Why didn't I hear WHEN God spoke?" And, again, that question has been answered.
Pharoh, Neb, Balaam, Saul...they were all forced to hear. if I was asking correctly (which according to you, I MUST have done since god spoke to me) why did I hear, particularly if I was asking with a sincere heart?
First, again, you don’t want the Most Holy One of Israel to force you to hear, dear one. TRUST me on this... if you can't trust the record. You want to hear… because YOU… WANT…to hear. Because it is YOUR choice… NOT His. Second, again, you did hear. I know you deny that now, but I have gone through this with many others. And sooner or later they come back and say, “Ohhhhhhh… I DID hear. I just didn’t know that THAT was what you were speaking of. I get it, now. And, yes, I heard. I really did. I never knew it was like that.” And then… they go giving thanks and praising JAH… that they finally “got” it… and go on hearing from that point.
I will stop when you answer the questions.
I have done my best. If what I have posted now isn’t sufficient, then I must leave you to my Lord. I have shared everything I have heard and received from him, and left out nothing. Including that which you do not want to hear (yet).
If you know that god spoke to me, tell me when, where, what he said, why I didn't hear him when he clearly can make me do that given the many examples I have provided.
Please… see above.
You are correct. God could easily make me listen if he so chose.
Yes, dear one. But He doesn’t want to do it that way. And you don’t want Him to, truly. He WANTS... YOU... to WANT to listen. Really. He REALLY wants it to be YOUR choice. Think: do you want another to love you solely because YOU want them to love you? Or do you want them to love you... because THEY... WANT... to love you? Do you want your child to obey because YOU want them to obey you? Or because they WANT to obey you? How about your spouse/significant other? Do you want him/her to love you because it's what YOU want? Or... it's because it's what THEY want? Not rock science, dear one...
You could answer the questions.
I can, and as my Lord has permitted me... I have. And he has. And... the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies, has. All YOU need to do NOW... is l isten, dear NVL. And then… be honest with yourself. SEE yourself. Because then you will know what to ask forgiveness FOR… and so be cleansed. For God IS merciful. Truly. You have absolutely NO idea.
Based on history, however, the chances of either of those things happening seems slim.
Don’t worry about history… and don’t concern yourself with chances. Neither have anything to do with this matter. Rather, let history be damned… and chances be left to the god of luck. YOU, however, put your trust in the TRUE God... the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies… by putting your trust… and your life… in His Son and Christ, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH.
You can do this, dear NVL. ALL of Israel can do this. As can any who go with them. It is not rocket science. It is simply elementary A-B-C:
2 + 2… equals the exact same thing as 1 + 3… and 4 – 0, dear one.
May you hear… and get the sense of these things. And may the undeserved kindness and mercy of my God and Father, the MOST Holy One of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, whose name is JAH… of Armies… and the love and peace of His Son and Christ, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, be upon you… if you so wish it. May you HEAR the Voice OF that Holy Spirit… and his Bride… when they say to YOU:
“Come! Take life’s water… the holy spirit of God… which water is poured out from the innermost parts of His cistern… Christ… FREE!”
Again, I am your servant, as I am servant to ALL those of the Household of God, Israel, and those who go with… and a slave of Christ,
SA
