JW woman dies in car accident out in the "work"--where was the holy spirit? (page 8)

CuriousButterfly

If you read that I personally would not do that and that I think it is dead wrong for anyone who is a JW or not.

designs

Isaac, the last JW funeral I attended for a dear old friend did end like a bad infomercial. Who makes a sales pitch for literature in a funeral talk I'm surprised he didn't say they accept Paypal.

Now when I gave a Eulogy for an old friend and the non-jw husband of a sister as few years ago I was hunted by four judicial committees, you'd have thought I was performing a Santoria Feast complete with chicken sacrifices, Lovely group ...

jookbeard

morning folks on both sides of the pond, sounds like Elderlite has been at the John Daniels again.

Agree Isaac, not only would the Dub not piss on an Apostate if he were on fire, even inactive/weak/faded ones are Armageddon fodder that dont deserve the chance of "everlasting life" the thread on "reinstated ones" shows what the R&F even think of their own.

Podobear

Maybe those of us who still hold faith in "something" can spare a quiet prayer for this lady and those who loved her. Time for anyone of "faith" to cuddle up tight when tragedy like this strikes.

All power to them, during this difficult time.

Podo

isaacaustin

Curiousbutterfly, if you voiced your feelings in many congs you would get a blank stare that basically said to change the topic.

isaacaustin

Designs, the 'We accept Paypal" is probably coming! LOL

isaacaustin

Jook,

At my parents hall someone mentioned Michael Jackson in a comment during the WT study and got a very nasty glare from the conductor...and some 'kindly' counsel after the meeting. Can you imagine the reaction at the hall by the elders if they overheard members lamenting the death of an 'apostate'? Many years ago an 'apostate' died after falling off a ladder. His wife was still a JW and living with him (and berated by many for staying with her 'apostate husband'). When he died the announcement made did not mention his name. It simply said "So and so's husband has passed away".

miseryloveselders

I agree with what you guys and gals are saying in regards to how screwed up the JW mentality is regarding life and death. It goes without saying that they're twisted in how they view nonbelievers, apostates, and disfellowshipped ones. Being fair though, I'm hesitant to paint all JWs with that brush. This forum is full of people who were former JWs in good standing at one point, and active JWs still in good standing that don't verbalize those negative thoughts. Reflecting on my own thought process, even when I believed all of it hook-line-sinker, I never had feelings of hatred or lack of compassion toward unbelievers, disfellowshipped, or apostates.

Not to get preachy on you guys, but 1 Pet 3:9 comes to mind regarding "not paying evil with evil, or insult with insult." Romans 12:17 states the same and includes "being honorable to all." Some translations render, "do whats right in the eyes of all." Granted, I'm probably NOT the best guy to promote those verses as my attitude towards people is horrible at times as evidenced several times on this forum. However, being that this is a public forum, and one of the more popular forums focusing on JWs, I think we all should be cautious of the feelings we display for the sake of lurkers. Not to mention, some of us probably should do some soul searching if it seems we traded in the dehumanization we had of others while being a JW, only to have the same numbness towards other's plights as an ExJW. The more I'm typing, the more I'm thinking about Jesus thoughts on turning the other cheek, or making peace with one's brother before offering a sacrafice before the altar. Its not enough to do whats right by our actions, but also by our thought process and our feelings. God corrected Cain before he acted on his jealousy and hatred. So it wasn't just his actions, but his heart was crooked. I think we all would do well to meditate on our own feeling and thoughts toward others, especially those who were in the same boat we were in being brainwashed.

By the way, please don't reference this post if I say something vile to any of you on here LOL.

Balsam

I'm with Tec & Gregor on this. Shame on all of you for making light of this accident which took this woman's life and put the others in the hospital. They could have been going anywhere. Make light of a person losing their life is not funny. Just because they were out doing the door to door work does not give them some kind of blanket protection. Even as a JW we all knew that and it is stupid to even say that. My JW son died in an auto accident on the way home from the KH, it would have taken me into a quick rage to hear this kind of talk if people had taken this attitude about him. He was only 15. How can you even hope to have anyone hear you when your so rude and hateful about JW's dying. It is sad.

Ruth

Mary

And I still have to ask, what would be the JW reaction toward the death of an 'apostate'? It is actually the JW view that cheapens life- even of this JW lady who died. The JW mindset says "Oh well, she will be resurrected." The family members grieve while the rest of the members move on and forget the sadness.

Ya, but sweetie, we should be better than that. I hate the religion but the people who are in it are still human beings and some family is now grieving the loss of someone they loved. Remember how pissed off we all were when Danny Haszard pepper-sprayed those two elderly Witnesses who came to his door? It doesn't mean that we still don't hate the religion, but they didn't deserve what he did.

I agree that many Witnesses are not there for their fellow man when tragedy strikes, but that doesn't mean we have to sink to their level.

JW woman dies in car accident out in the "work"--where was the holy spirit?

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