A Sincere Question...

by AGuest 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    :So, my question(s) is/are: do you get offended when someone uses words/phrases... or comments on/discusses something... you are not familiar with?

    No, because it rarely happens, and when it does, I merely ask them to define the word. Oftentimes they can't. My vocabulary has grown substantially since I left the dubs, but even when I was in, it was larger than average. I've always loved words. Some people don't realize that words are the difference between communicating clearly and effectively or forcing the other person to try and figure out what you really mean when you are speaking or writing.

    That's like, you know, where its at for me. Whatever.

    Farkel

  • believingxjw
    believingxjw

    I believe consideration should be applied on both sides. The one who does not understand should be polite enough to listen and possibly learn something even a new word the other should be intelligent enough to acknowledge that not all have the same education and refrain from poking fun at those who reveal a lack thereof.

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    However if I am the receiver I want to hear new words and I would ask if I dont understand. I dont like when people ask me "do you know what this word mean?" I like to be treated as smart people, assume that I know all your words, and allow me to ask you what I dont. But then again most people dont like this. They rather prefer small words.

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    Paul is saying that when it comes to being able to help others know and follow Jesus, then we must be ready and able to fit in with them in their culture.

    That makes sense to me, dear Wasblind (peace to you!). If, however, their culture calls a quarry... a quarry... what would "Paul" have one do? I mean, do you think he would expect one to know... when all appearances indicate otherwise... that, for example, while virtually everyone else in the village may know that a quarry is a quarry, one family's lack of such knowledge is indicative of the "culture" of the entire village?

    Since you mention Paul, I would also like to offer, if I may, an account that may just shine some light on just how HE might take a similar situation:

    Now while Paul was waiting for them in Athens, his spirit within him came to be irritated at beholding that the city was full of idols. Consequently he began to reason in the synagogue with the Jews and the other people who worshiped [God] and every day in the marketplace with those who happened to be on hand. But certain ones of both the Ep·i·cu·re´an and the Sto´ic philosopherstook to conversing with him controversially, and some would say: “What is it this chatterer would like to tell?” Others: “He seems to be a publisher of foreign deities.” This was because he was declaring the good news of [Jesus] and the resurrection. So they laid hold of him and led him to the Ar·e·op´a·gus, saying: “Can we get to know what this newteaching is which is spoken by you? For you are introducing some things that are strange to our ears. Therefore we desire to get to know what these things purport to be.” In fact, all Athenians and the foreigners sojourning there would spend their leisure time at nothing but telling something or listening to something new.

    Paul now stood in the midst of the Ar·e·op´a·gus and said:

    “Men of Athens, I behold that in all things YOU seem to be more given to the fear of the deities than others are. For instance, while passing along and carefully observing YOUR objects of veneration I also found an altar on which had been inscribed ‘To an Unknown God.’ Therefore what YOU are unknowingly giving godly devotion to, this I am publishing to YOU . The God that made the world and all the things in it, being, as this One is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples, neither is he attended to by human hands as if he needed anything, because he himself gives to all [persons] life and breath and all things. And he made out of one [man] every nation of men, to dwell upon the entire surface of the earth, and he decreed the appointed times and the set limits of the dwelling of [men], for them to seek God, if they might grope for him and really find him, although, in fact, he is not far off from each one of us. For by him we have life and move and exist, even as certain ones of the poets among YOU have said, ‘For we are also his progeny.’

    “Seeing, therefore, that we are the progeny of God, we ought not to imagine that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, like something sculptured by the art and contrivance of man. True, God has overlooked the times of such ignorance, yet now he is telling mankind that they should all everywhere repent. Because he has set a day in which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has furnished a guarantee to all men in that he has resurrected him from the dead.”

    Well, when they heard of a resurrection of the dead, some began to mock, while others said: “We will hear you about this even another time.” Thus Paul went out from their midst, but some men joined themselves to him and became believers, among whom also were Di·o·nys´i·us, a judge of the court of the Ar·e·op´a·gus, and a woman named Dam´a·ris, and others besides them."

    So, as you can see, some took offense at what Paul said. But even a judge got what he was talking about. And he was talking... in an arena/forum... where philosophers, judges, and many Athenians (who gave HIGH regard to education, particularly science, etc.) were. Now, true, the 12 most likely would not have been able to speak here (NOT because they didn't have holy spirit; they did!)... but because they were AS "learned" as Paul... and most probably would have been less... confident. Maybe even begged off. So, the Most Holy One of Israel sent... TO THE NATIONS... the One HE chose... to SPEAK... to the nations.

    So, I am not sure Paul is the best example for what I think you're trying to say, here, dear WB... but I could be wrong. If so, please excuse and accept my sincere apology.

    Peace to you!

    YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    I love you guys... all of 'youse (peace to you!).

    Tec...{{{{{ hug}}}}}

    JO (peace to you!)... I hear you!

    CJ... thanks for the additional "clarification" (peace to you!)

    Believing and Found Sheep... thanks (and peace!).

    Dear OUTLAW and Daddy-O... peace to you and you know I think you two walk on water, right? Yeah, I know, yer ankles get wet... but even still!

    Thank you all for your responses!

    Peace!

    YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    No apology needed Aguest,

    I just take that scripture to mean that even though Jesus

    came down to their level of understanding, he didn't stay

    at that level , in the process he brought them to a greater

    understanding. The scripture state's jesus became weak to

    gain the weak, so that he could save some. We know of course

    he did not remain in a weakend state, otherwise he would not

    have been able to help anyone.

  • yknot
    yknot

    Not me....

    If I don't know a word I can usually discern it by the rest of the conversation (or secretly mark it in my head to look up later!)

    As for topical discussion, I was told all my life to keep my mouth shut, listen and learn if I had nothing to contribute.

    I think all of the above can be explained in one word 'INSECURITY'.

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    Aguest, it's getting late here and i'm getting mixed up on whos' talkin'

    in the scriptures. But even if that was paul talkin' that's how I see that

    scripture.

  • believingxjw
    believingxjw

    Jesus left the unimportant unimportant. Whether someone uses the word "quarry" or "rock pit" is unimportant to the extreme.

  • chicken little
    chicken little

    A quandary about a quarry? Not worth a quarrel!

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