A Sincere Question... (page 3)

watersprout

I love words too...I love to read, infact i have been known to devour what is written on a cornflakes box

When i was in the Borg all i ''could/was allowed'' to use was watchtower lingo...It was frustrating to me as when i tried to talk about something happening in the big wide world, i would have snide remarks about me being really ''clever''...Which i really am not...When i left the borg I was amazed at how ''normal'' people interact with one another, discussing interesting subjects.

As regards what happened with your relatives, i think that was a little unfair on the wifes part berating her husband in that manner...If she didn't know what was being discussed, why not ask questions?? When something like that happens it's very embarressing for the rest of the group. Personally if everyone is talking about a subject i know nothing about, i start asking questions and get to know what they are discussing...I have been round friends and everyone but me knows what they are all on about...So i start with the questions and i have found that they gladly explain...It makes the person/people i'm with feel good imparting the knowledge thay have on me, plus i get to learn something new. Everyones a winner!

I do love to ask questions and i love hearing peoples replies.

Peace and light

RosePetal

Yes I agree with watersprout, I love learning and enjoy the conversations and discussions of people and picking up on their knowledge, tips and if I don't understand or know I ask them, and they love explaining what they know. Broadening our knowledge is the spice of life. I loved going back to college it made me work hard as I don't have a great memory but now I am finding it easier.

Also I think it is polite in company to talk about things others want to talk about and to share conversation being aware we could be leaving someone out. I try to adapt to who I am with and not make them feel uncomfortable, this has helped me broaden my friends and acquaintances.

RosePetal

coffee_black

I always enjoy your posts, Shelby. I think you express yourself beautifully. When I first started reading your posts, I found it a bit difficult... but over time, I "got" what you were saying...and the rhythm and tone of your posts. For me was never an issue of the words you use...

I think part of the issue is that when reading "posts" you can't hear the inflection of the spoken word...or experience the personality of the poster. So what may be meant to be funny comes across as serious...and vice versa.

But even when you can hear the spoken words, feelings can get in the way. When my jw husband (now x) and I would argue, he would always tell me to stop yelling. If you knew me, you would know that I don't yell... it isn't in me. I am extremely soft spoken. I would make it a conscious effort to speak even more softly during an arguement, so he couldn't accuse me of yelling. He did anyway. I finally concluded after many years of trying to communicate with him, that if I was saying something that he didn't want to hear, he "heard" it as yelling. I could have whispered it...and he would still perceive it as yelling.

I think that the same may be true on this board... if you are saying something that some don't want to hear, your words become an issue...they "hear" you in a way that comes from within themselves...

Coffee

thenoblelodge

Coffe-black _ hit the nail right on the head.

When I first started reading your posts Shelby I had to go throught them again to 'get' what you were saying. Now I understand 'your' way of writing and 'get' it first time.

Some don't like what you write because it's what they don't want to hear.

Peace to all

snowbird

CoffeeBlack!

Word.

I, too, am a lover of words.

Some, JW's and others, view me with suspicion because of this.

More the pity them.

Tee hee hee.

Syl

Little Imp

For me if I was one of four people having dinner and a subject came up in conversation which I knew little or nothing about I would be interested to listen to the others, particularly as I could possibly learn three different viewpoints on a new subject. Usually though, at such dinners the subject changes which would then mean I could join in though if the other three were all interesting I would enjoy listening and perhaps may even ask a question so I can learn more.

That said, if I was with a group of JWs I would find conversation difficult because to be quite honest they only have one subject. Also, because of the way they are taught to be judgmental of others it can make any other type of conversation very difficult. So you are not alone there.

I can honestly say I have never had a decent, interesting conversation with any JWs until I came to this site and I am amazed at how diverse, how articulate and how witty everyone is. I have learnt so much just by reading posts and often laugh out loud. These are the kind of people I enjoy socialising with.

MMXIV

When in company and I don't understand the topic I might initially ask the basics to a) get a quick leg up in life and understanding, b) let people know they shouldn't expect me to make any meaningful comments from this point forward and c) let them know it's ok to carry on.

When I'm out of my depth (happens more frequently than I'd care to mention) I have learned to shut the f**k up. A simple rule but much appreciated. I have been lucky enough to mix with some amazing, well known people in society. I try not to intrude on their mental space and tend to let them take the lead or set the tone. I probably would have made a good butler. In fact I'd have made a great butler - a very attentive sort.

On this board I'm aware my vocab and use of the English language is generally poor. I try, and at times I punch above my weight, but rarely. I bet if you looked back at all my posts you'd notice a unique style. A uniquely backward, repetitive style. But I'm better than I was five years ago and five years before that. It doesn't bother me in the slightest when I don't understand threads. Sometimes I use Americanisms to help the main readership across the pond understand more easily what I'm saying.

mmxiv

I quit!

There you go again Shelby using big words like chonies. Is there no end to your arrogance?

All kidding aside you do come across as being an intellegent woman and that in itself can be threatening in JW circles. Women should know their place. And another thing is I don't think you learn a lot being a JW. On what reading level was the "Truth Book"? Maybe 5th or 6th grade. After your first year in the Watchtower you know about all there is to know about it (at least the things they want you to know) after that it is mostly repetition but it is enough repitition to keep you busy enough not to have time read anything else. I don't ever recall hearing a JW say they were going to the library. I knew very few JW who ever read anything but Watchtowe publication and maybe the news paper. I think news papers are consider ok because all the bad news in them helps fortify their belief that the end is near.

Well I'm off to unbunch my chonies.

AGuest

Seriously... I LOVE you guys!!! Water, Rose, Coffee, Lodge, Sno'Birdie, Imp, MM, and Quitter (jk!)... you guys rock my world!! The GREATEST of love and peace to you, especially those of you (who responded) who are WOMEN!! Omigawd, dedicated though I was... I had the hardest time with the "mindlessness" of the Borg. How they berate you for having a BRAIN... let alone holy spirit! Came to the point where my "conscience"... "bothered" me... for every book, movie, conversation... NOT because it bothered ME... but apparently bothered, well, everyone else! I SO wanted to say on SO many occasions... after some comment from the podium or statement in the WT... "Wait, folks! Did you HEAR/READ that?! That's NOT what it says... not even in the NWT!!" I would look around, though, and see a sea of blank eyes and bobbing heads: "yesssss, lord WT, we hear youuuuuu..."

I finally concluded after many years of trying to communicate with him, that if I was saying something that he didn't want to hear, he "heard" it as yelling. I could have whispered it...and he would still perceive it as yelling.

Dearest Coffee (peace to you!), I have received the same accusations... here (due to my use of caps from time to time, which I use NOT to denote loudness but emphasis, because I've learned that a lot of folks also don't know punctuation, and so italics sometimes don't mean a thing!)... and in the "real" world. But, like you, I've never raised my voice in my life. For one, I can't - I sing. My voice doesn't "raise" or GET loud. At all. Two, I just don't see the need. Like you, as things heat up, my voice gets quieter... and I get calmer. That's why my kids always paid attention to what I said - they had to... to hear me - LOLOLOLOLOL! I didn't ramp it up so that they could! They had to bring theirs DOWN - LOLOLOLOL!

I think that the same may be true on this board... if you are saying something that some don't want to hear, your words become an issue...they "hear" you in a way that comes from within themselves...

And there you go. Thank you. Which I have just "said"... calmly... and quietly. It is how THEY speak to others... and what comes from within THEM... that they "hear." Yes. Absolutely. It is why I never really take offense to what others say here: I don't "hear" their loudness... because there is no loudness within ME. Which is what I've learned helps me hear my Lord. No NOISE. LOLOLOLOLOL!

Again, thank you ALL... and GOOD morning!

YOUR servant... and a slave of Christ,

SA

wasblind

thank you ALL... and GOOD morning!

Good Morning Aguest, it's noon here and a little chilly

compared to what it has been weather wise, do you

have a warm breeze you could spare

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