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At what point did you realize JW's were a Cult?
by Think About It 184 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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EmptyInside
Well, the last few months, I can see now,where it would be a cult. The very fact that I have to plan my exit from the Witnesses. They want your whole life to be centered around the religion,everything else is bad,even hobbies,because they take away field service time. I'm afraid of sharing any negative thoughts I have with those still in,because of not wanting to be df-d.
I was raised in this and it seems more and more focus is put on the "faithful slave" than God and Jesus.
And they're teaching the Witnesses to hate outsiders and those that left the org. more and more.
And they call it the "truth". ugh. All their special words and how they abbreviate the special words. Like COBE, this pioneer sister I know calls it "KOBY', like someone's name. It makes them feel so special and different.
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miseryloveselders
I was raised in this and it seems more and more focus is put on the "faithful slave" than God and Jesus.
And they're teaching the Witnesses to hate outsiders and those that left the org. more and more.
And they call it the "truth". ugh. All their special words and how they abbreviate the special words. Like COBE, this pioneer sister I know calls it "KOBY', like someone's name. It makes them feel so special and different.
You got that wrong,it doesn't seem that they're putting more and more focus on the faithful slave, they are putting more focus on the faithful slave. I don't know where they're headed with this self worship thing, time will tell, but you're not imagining anything. They're gassed on themselves as if they're getting high on helium.
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LouBelle
I had my enlightenment about the socienty on the 1 January 2005 or was it 2004 - I can't remember any more. I was disfellowshipped 6 months later. It hadn't taken me long to investigate, to dig, to realise and accept. I have never defended the society since then. I saw them for what they were within that 6 months - there was no one thing that screamed cult at me. It was all of it: Controlling our time, our nights, our days, who our friends should be, what we could or couldn't do for our health, who we could and couldn't marry, what married could and couldn't do in bed, discouraging education, their constant tacking, their lack of love, the do that or get disfellowshipped attitude.
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finallysomepride
July 2009
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Witness My Fury
Reading this very forum did it for me and then putting in the effort to challenge my previously held beliefs. Not an easy thing for a born in, but we should all kick ourselves for NOT doing it BEFORE baptism!!
Cheers
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Billen76
The first time the thought struck me, was when I tried to play the old Ultima 7 "The Black Gate" game. The story of "The Fellowship" I thought then, was directed at Jehovahs Witnesses. Another one of Satans arrows sent against the Truth. *sigh*
The image of Own the Shipwright, who as member of The Fellowship is to have a statue erected by The Fellowship, for being an outstanding shipwright, himself writing books about himself, the blind admiration of The Fellowships members and the proud Branch Leader bragging of how great Owen has become by being a Fellowship member and what their "Triad of Inner Strength" had brought into his life, just rang a bell. In the end it turned out Owens ships sunk as soon as they hit stormy waters and his designs was filled with fatal flaws. He committed suicide upon realization, the statue was cancelled and the Branch Leader frowned upon hearing his name mentioned.
Just a story and while you certainly may find diversions from the Jehovahs Witnesses beliefs, the very selfglorification of the organisation with its use of "examples" among the witnesses to boast about how great effect their teachings have on witnesses lifes simply is striking. Also it is typical how jw's thrive on the prestige they can get inside the congregation, percieving themselves as born leaders, while they in fact make a terrible mess of things.
I guess that is what JW offers and in the same time it is what causes the greatest damage to the heart and mind. In my eyes, you have not awakened fully, untill you can see you have been in a cult (with a religious theme). It is so obvious, that it can only because one is still more or less under the influence of the mental control The Governing Body "provides", if one still does not see it.
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debator
They are not a cult!
nice loaded question for a debate topic.
A loaded question is a question which contains a controversial assumption such as a presumption of guilt. Such questions are used rhetorically, so that the question limits direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda.
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leavingwt
Hassan says that people who are trapped inside cults DO NOT KNOW that they are trapped inside cults. Further, nobody joins a cult. People are recruited into them.
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debator
Thats if you are talking about actual cults leavingwt. The majority of governments and human rights organisations recognise Witnesses as a fully realised religion and definitely not a cult.
I wonder would steve hassan support his book being cold-read into any religious organisation by those that dislike that religion as a tool to prejudice people's opinion?