At what point did you realize JW's were a Cult?

by Think About It 184 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  jookbeard

  Ren:

  I see you dont make any reference to the countless amounts of emergency court hearings that grant members of the medical profession permission to transfuse life giving blood that our God has provided for us for very sick and ill small babies and children that require it? surely if the WTS was not a "cult" there would be no need for these emergency court orders while young babies and children lay dying on a hospital bed with their bloodguilty evil parents sitting there watching their own children die? a place like hell can be the only place for parents that allow such suffering?

  Strange you dont quote such court cases, strange.

  Our anti Witness agenda is saving lives as we speak!
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  isaacaustin

  -bator:

  Hi bohm

  Yes your right

  Jehovah's Witnesses, most governments, human rights organisations define Cults a particular way and confirm Jehovah's witnesses are not a cult and ex-JW's, anti-religionists (I won't add cult experts since they do not mention witnesses. Their work is simply cold-read into biased info about witnesses) another way.

  Again I ask who is being blinded by their prejudice?

  My reply: Not a case of prejudiced but rather a lack of awareness on the parts of governments...the same as in prfessional sports head injuries used to be considered a minor injury that you come back from quickly..whereas now congress has gotten involved as they are realzing the lasting impact. Education is the key!
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  isaacaustin

  Ren/Debator:

  This is the moment where after you say on other debates threads that you are enlightenned now, no longer blinded and have new critical thinking skills.

  That you ask yourself why you need to say Witnesses are a cult despite most governments and human rights saying they aren't?

  Please think about that carefully. Examine please how much you are being prejudiced by your anti-witness agenda!

  My reply: Unlike the JW perception, Witnesses are not important in the eyes of the world in general..they lack numers and any sort of influence or importance. They gravely effect the lves of its own members and the members' families. The outside world knows very little about them so, this lack of knowledge leads to lack of recognition as the cult that they are.
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  poppers

  Unlike the JW perception, Witnesses are not important in the eyes of the world in general..they lack numers and any sort of influence or importance. They gravely effect the lves of its own members and the members' families. The outside world knows very little about them so, this lack of knowledge leads to lack of recognition as the cult that they are.

  Well said, isaacaustin. I knew nothing about witnesses prior to coming to this board - it has been an eye-opening experience for me, and my conclusion, after being here and also talking to JWs who come to my door, is that they are indeed a cult.
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  isaacaustin

  Poppers, that is a very common traits among cults..such as JWs/Mormonism/etc. The average person knows a few obscure facts about JWs- door to door, don't do holidays, no bllod maybe...but they do not know the enforced shunning, the extreme pushing of the GB as God's source of truth, the means by which evading a transfusion..etc...so they appear to the outsider as clean-cut, law-abiding..and a bit odd..but that's it.
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  debator

  Hi jook

  That is just a red herring. All governments know about our well-established stand on blood and it's biblical basis. It is not a credible reason to call us a cult. You would have to rewrite the bible and make blood a substance that isn't as dangerous (it may prolong lifes but it can cost lifes too, ask any person that has got Aids from a blood transfusion, or the millions that have died because blood was stored to long before transfusion to be of any benefit and caused great harm) as it is, to support your stance from that viewpoint. It's a fish that won't fly. Our stand has actually prolonged thousands of lifes because doctors have been able to pioneer bloodless techniques. Hospitals specifically speciallising in bloodless techniques are springing up because of witnesses. Can any other religion say that of their medical stand? No.

  Isaacator

  We are a 7 million strong religion that is known wide-wide with multi court actions in our pursuit of preaching Jehovah's Good news. We are very well-known and you are resorting to statements that are simply not true.
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  bohm

  debator - I think you missed my question: Is scientology a cult?

  (and while we are at it, ofcourse cult members have rights. even murderers have rights! stating such a trivial fact has no bearing whatsoever on anything!)
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  debator

  Hi poppers

  This is board is your training ground for knowing Jehovah's witnesses alone? Then I would say you still no nothing about witnesses.

  Especially if you would rather agree with a few posters on here than governments and human-right courts that are honour-bound to look into us deeply and simply say we are not a cult.
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  bohm

  debator - if i may ask, if a government or human right court ruled that jehovahs witnesses was a cult, would you then believe they were?

  But back to the scientology question: Scientology, cult or not?
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  jookbeard

  The Chinese goverment are not very well versed on the WTS stand on blood are they? as regards to it being a biblical stand the scriptural examples are for dietary warnings only, how many children have died after having blood refused to them? Thank goodness for the hard working medical and legal staff that allow blood to be given to young kids even as we speak, the very blood that the WT compares to being raped , how sick.