LETS GET SMART: "What parts of science that go against your religious beliefs you DONT AGREE WITH"

by cyberjesus 32 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    PSac, your view is the current popular view. Science shows us facts and "believers" keep putting their beliefs into a smaller box.
    At one time, people literally believed in the Garden of Eden and the flood- many still do. The progressive believers say it is allegory.

    At least it's progress. One day, believers will have a pretty small box. All that will be left is that God exists and created all things via the scientific methods, allowing them to evolve and allowing it all to come to an end one day at the end of the universe.

    One thing I believe religiously that goes against "current" science is that THE BIG BANG and other theories about the beginning are not what we will ultimately realize as "the truth." The Big Bang is just a nice slogan for the best current answer. But man's science has a long way to go to figure it all out. I still don't believe a God did it, but there will be a better explanation in the future. It's like saying that science once "currently" believed in spontaneous generation of life. Well, they learned better. That's what science is all about- continually learning better.

    The great thing is that The Big Bang doesn't intrude on my life. It doesn't matter to me what that actual "truth" turns out to be. Same with evolution or tectonic plates theory. I will admit that whether global warming is true or not does affect me to a lesser degree than the theory of electricity. My point is that science is important in everybody's life, but lets not get carried away and think that our personal beliefs/theories/research will make a hill of beans of difference in Cyberjesus's life or in OTWO's upcoming vacation.

  • tec
    tec

    Science shows us facts and "believers" keep putting their beliefs into a smaller box.

    That's funny. I see the bible as putting God in a small box. It certainly gives us a glimpse, but He is much bigger than the paper and ink describing him.

    If I believe in God as creator of the universe, then naturally everything about science helps us to see how he created things.

    Tammy

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento
    Wasn't Galileo under Church censorship and confined to his home, circa 1616, the Church held that Joshua 10:13 was a real accounting of the solar system- geocentric vs heliocentric.

    Yep, he was house arrested in a mansion and allowed visitors and to continue to publish works ( I think he still published but I am not 100% sure), there is a book about that.

    PS...I think you meant heliocentricity was proven

    LMAO, yes, that one * shoots himself in head*

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    I agree with Tammy, to me at least Science is freeing God from Religious dogma and showing God to be way more than that.

  • SweetBabyCheezits
    SweetBabyCheezits
    Unshackled: ...much agreed on QualiaSoup videos. They are all excellent...especially the 'Putting Faith in its Place' one.

    Yes, definitely. I learned more logic in 10 minutes from these guys than 10 years in the WT!

    [edit] Have you watched TheraminTrees (his brother) videos, too? Brilliant stuff. There's even one where the two bros collaborated, called "Instruction Manual for Life". Does an AMAZING job of representing life as a young person in a closed-minded religion. I've probably watched it 10 times and I put it in my FB status the night after we were DF'd.

  • SweetBabyCheezits
    SweetBabyCheezits
    heliocentricity was proven

    Be sure to specify heliocentricity relative to our solar system so as not to be confused with the old theory of universal heliocentricity. I got called out on that one time because I didn't clarify. (Thanks, BTS, for keeping me on my toes.)

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    So still nobody has posted a current scientific position that goes against their religious beliefs. So then it means we agree with science..

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    Does science say we have no spirit ??

  • unshackled
    unshackled

    SBC: Just watched "Instruction Manual for Life" again. I now remember having seen it before but didn't notice it was done by QualiaSoup and his brother (who was unknown to me until now). Very cool stuff. They do great work...let's spread it around.

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    I see the bible as putting God in a small box. It certainly gives us a glimpse, but He is much bigger

    than the paper and ink describing him.

    If I believe in God as creator of the universe, then naturally everything about science helps us to see how he created things.

    If I could "bow down" to you, dear tec (peace to you!)... without being accused of "worshipping" you... I would!

    To the thread (may you all have peace!)... I don't ascribe to any religion... so my beliefs are not religious. My personal difference, however, lies with that part of "science" that states, pretty much unequivocally... that "if we can't see, taste, touch, hear, or smell it with our physical senses... if we can't prove it by means of some physical experiment/process now known/available to to us... if it doesn't happen to me... or someone I know... or someone I... or the recognized/acknowledged/known/majority of 'society'... give credence to... it does not exist/did not happen."

    Because, just like religion, "science" (which, for some IS a religion)... has been subjected to exposure for falsities, as well. Almost as many. But beyond that, I have seen and heard things that the physical body truly cannot perceive. It does not make me better, superior, etc. It just is.

    Other than that, I am all FOR science. We live in the physical world... and so long as we do, we need to understand that world to a greater or lesser degree. Our fleshly lives... as well as the lives of those we love... depend on it. I do NOT agree that such physicalities don't always have an explanation. Even miracles have an explanation. The explanation, however, is not always tied to events controlled by... or in.. the physical world.

    Again, I bid you all peace.

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

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