by sabastious 53 Replies latest social humour
And then everyone forgot, for 40+ years. Then Saul of Tarsus came along and told a story about a vision he had had about a man who was crucified, rose from the dead and ascended into heaven.
Who forgot? Saul of Tarsus was persecuting those people who followed Christ at the time of his vision. Kind of implies the opposite of forgot.
Tammy
Ah, quit trying to blame me for the last 2,000 years.....I only cheated on Joe once.
Yeah but that one time had some serious repercussions!
-Sab
Jesus's followers have been persecuted to one extent or another for quiet sometime before Saul had his vision, which happend around 33-36 AD.
Who forgot? Saul of Tarsus was persecuting those people who followed Christ at the time of his vision. Kind of implies the opposite of forgot.
Tammy
You are absolutely right, Tammy. The forgetting part was the time between Paul's death and the writing of the gospels. I got ahead of the story. Thanks.
Joseph was created later to make Jesus more palatible to the masses. The Gospel of Thomas does not deny the common talk that Jesus was a bastard.
Tammy's right, though. I was not making myself clear. I do that sometimes. Saul of Tarsus aka Paul died in AD 67, according to the most reliable evidence. The things Paul writes about Jesus of Nazareth in 80,000 recorded words mentions nothing about His life and no-one during that period and years beyond wrote a single word about it either. It's as if they didn't know any of it. Where did all that absolutely critical information come from? The virgin birth, all those the miracles, the sermon on the mount and all the other stuff that happened from the immaculate conception up until the time Jesus of Nazareth was executed? Huge crowds of people witnessed first hand all the wonderous stuff Jesus was doing but nobody wrote any of it down. Did everybody just forget to? If the information was carried forward word of mouth for 40+ years then it is at best unreliable and still begs the question why wouldn't it have been recorded in writing, anyway, why word of mouth? If the supposition is that there were very few literate people around at that time, that explanation would defy the benefit of Paul having sent out all those epistles for people to read. No word about the life of the early Christians' spiritual leader was recorded for 40+ years after His death - putting the account of Jesus as a child in the Temple more than 60+ years afterward, and that is just too odd to be denied.
That's how it started but it REALLY took off when a coat-check-boy saw an opportunity to create a new international religion and ran with it.
I always suspected Paul was an opportunist that saw the chance to jump from coat check boy in a big club to an important leader in a small one.
and that is just too odd to be denied.
How do we know that the writings, you refer to, never existed?
-Sab
How do we know that the writings, you refer to, never existed?
If writings did exist they were not apparently inspired by God, else they would have been retained. Otherwise those who wrote the New Testament were inspired by old writings and not by God, or maybe the writers of the New Testament were subject to that "New Light" phenomenon, too, and they threw out all the old written records? No, just doesn't make sense.
The reason that Jesus ended up being such an important figure in history, is that Rome needed a martyr to adopt that would act as a platform for a new religious power base. They succeeded. When the Roman empire collapsed the Vatican held on to its influence. Simple see!
