Fox News: 'Heaven Is For Real'

by whereami 68 Replies latest jw friends

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  Podobear

  In 1981 whilst in Bethel, my appendix ruptured whilst the surgeon was opening me up... peritonitis caused toxic shock to my system and, apparently, I died.

  I had what you might describe as an Out of Body experience.... I don't recall being in any other place than peering down on the team which was trying to revive me. Whether this was the experience of coming to... out of the General Anaesthesia, temporarily, I will never know.

  All I know for sure is that I woke up in intensive care one and half days later feeling as if I did not have a care in the world, and at peace.

  Shortly there after I experienced something on the ward that would start my exit from the WT movement. For me, my death, brought me back to an entirely different world.

  This is my true testimony.

  Podo
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  journey-on

  Am I missing something? It sounded to me like Fox was just reporting one of those human interest stories. It did not sound like they were reporting some big finding or even that they were agreeing with it on the main headline news segment. Sheesh!
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  Chalam

  Ian McCormack former atheist, near death experience, nde

  Blessings in Christ,

  Stephen
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  leavingwt

  would start my exit from the WT movement

  Podo: Is your story, here, somewhere? For some reason, I was thinking that you were still in.
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  carla

  Somebody asked if you could 'fake' a NDE- The US Army was doing some experimation in this area a number of years ago and while they were able to recreate the experience (bright light, tunnel, feeling of well being) they were not able to recreate what seems to happen in the majority of NDE experiences, that being a profound life altering experience in which they often make great changes in their life due to the NDE. Ever read the hell version of NDE's? very interesting also and how the person also changed their life dramatically afterwards.

  Not a conversation you can have with a jw now is it? It should be ok to ponder such things without someone getting their undies in a bunch.
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  ColdRedRain

  MSNBC-"Stalin Was Misunderstood". Take this FNC news story as it is: a Conservative network playing to their Conservative fringe audience. No different than MessNBC catering to to the Chavezistas.
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  carla

  Maybe Heaven is what you expect it to be? Reminds me of the joke about jw's- A man was getting a tour of Heaven from St. Peter and they passed by many rooms talking when they came upon the next room and St Peter tells him to be very quiet while passing this door. Why? says the man. Oh, those are jehovah witnesses and they think they are the only ones here.
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  caliber

  "Shadows of doubt do hinder in seeing the living light of God"

  1 John 1:5 God is light
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  AGuest

  "sea blue" eyes...

  Interesting. They always look glowingly orange to me. Apparently, did to a couple others, as well (Daniel 10:6; Revelation 1:14). Not anglo blue, but not very "middle eastern-y" brown, either.

  I'm just sayin'...

  Peace...

  A slave of Christ... of the "Fiery" colored eyes...

  SA
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  Palimpsest

  I'm sure some people may be prone to lie and want to garner attention and claim to have had an NDE or OBE, but there are those (like my mother) who are not.

  I believe you when you say that your mother would not lie about something like this. But I don't see why it has to be seen as a "lie." Could it not also be that she genuinely believes something happened to her, but that she is wrong?

  We've seen this happen countless times with "recovered memories," est/Landmark therapy programs, sodium amytal abuse, and so on -- people wind up sincerely believing something that did not happen. They're in no way liars; they're just experiencing a quirk of the psyche. Can we really discount the idea that good, honest people are "remembering" something inaccurately when they talk about NDEs? What empirical evidentiary support do we have for believing what they have to say about these experiences that they feel they've had? Statements of character just don't cut it here.

  We can prove that the brain is able to "remember" things that didn't happen; the scientific community widely accepts that. We cannot prove or disprove that someone has had an NDE. Both factors combine to mean that we just don't know. But to ignore the existence of false memory when considering reports of NDEs would seem to be dishonest, in my view, and to be frank, unfair to the people who feel their lives have been touched by these experiences.