It Is Not the First Time

by AGuest 83 Replies latest jw friends

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    I try my best, as you know, I try my best.

    I do, dear one (again, peace to you!)

    May I ask why Jaheshua instead of Yeshua ? and how is it pronunced phonetically?

    My understanding is that "Jah eShua" is accurate. "Yeshua" removes the name of the Father, which certain men decided was too sacred to utter. Thus, they say "Yeshua" instead of "Y eShua"... instead of "Yah eShua". The yodh, however, is not the "y" men erroneously think it is - it is a "j"... which is pronounced like the consonant "y" (versus the vowel "y"). The only reason I know how it is pronounced is because that is how he said it to me at first and says it to me since. Jah eShua. Pronounced "Yah esh ua" or "Yah eh shua".

    I know that Hebrew linguists have issues with Yahshua but I don't think thay have it with Yaheshua nor Yeshua or Yehoshua.

    Look at the last three here:

    Yaheshua - This is exactly what I am saying, unless you place emphasis on the "h" (i.e., Ya Heh Shua). You don't. The empahsis is on the "e" ("Yah eh shua"). And if you to believe the yodh to be a "y"... which it isn't (it's a "j").

    Yeshua - The second is as I've explained above - there is a syllable missing ("Yah").

    Yehoshua - The last is least correct because it reverses the SOUND of the first two vowels (i.e., Yoheshua... Yoh eshua, pronounced "Yah eshua"... and NOT Yehoshua, pronounced "Ye ho shua").

    I know that in Hebrew annointed one is mashiakha and so annoited of Yah ( Jah) would be mashiakhaJah or mashiakhaYah.

    My understanding from our Lord is that "anointed (chosen) of JAH is "mischa Jah." I think maybe the... well, I don't even know what to call the phlegmy throaty Hebrew "thing"... is the problem. When one says "Mischa" correctly, it DOES sound like there might be a "k", indeed, a "kha" sound in there.

    Is the rendering you use of Jaheshua Mischajah a "phonetic" one?

    It IS!! Because it existed before there were symbols to symbolize it. BUT... according to my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH (the caps are mine) are the accurate symbols.

    AGuest- I can respect your somewhat non-pretentious approach

    Thank you, dear Jay, and peace to you! Truly, because there are MANY here who would disagree that my approach is "non-pretentious." LOLOLOL! But truly it is - I mean absolutely NO pretention at all!

    but I think that you really enjoy the taste of your own cooking very much.

    Well, yeah, I mean, I can cook when I want to. And sometimes it's tasty. But, I mean, I'm the first to admit I'm no Paula Dean...

    And I know you will grant what you are who you are as the outcome of spirit that has been granted you---I am happy for you.

    Thank you! I think...

    Imo, you sound like a person who has been abducted by aliens and is sharing with us some elaborate story about your time with the abductor.---Again good for you!

    Yeah, I can see how one might think that. Not true, but I can understand it...

    Are you not willing to allow people to come into their own, without the (I am saved, and you can, and should be saved too attitude.)

    I absolutely am... and I truly don't have the attitude you state here. First, my post is directed to those who are already of the Household of God, Israel, and those who go with, and thus have already "come into their own." In that regard, I am not trying to convert or save anyone. Second, if I were alreayd saved, there would be no NEED for me to post ANY of this, would there? I mean, the tribulation has not even started, let alone any having come through it (saved). Which prompts me to ask: are you... and such others... not willing to let me save me and my household? I mean, you've got to do... or not do... what you believe is best for you and yours, right? Why not allow me the same freedom?

    I will give you the benefit of the doubt that perhaps you haven't been posting here that long. I could be wrong as many lurk and others use several different avatars in order to try and hide (though why I truly do not know). But if you would be so kind as to give ME the same benefit of the doubt, you might allow yourself to see that what I post has much less to do with you and people coming into anything at all... and more to do with me and mine coming into something wonderful: life.

    Perhaps you'll disagree, but I don't think that's much to ask. When I start a thread like this, it's directed to the Household of God, Israel, and those who go with. And of those, to those with ears to hear. If one does not fall into either of these categories, then one shouldn't take offense. That, IMHO, would be pretentiousness in that such one is assuming they are among those being addressed... when they are not.

    I hope this helps you understand a little better, dear Jay, and I thank you for your kind words.

    Your servant and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    Thanks Shelby :)

    So, I am correct in its sounding like " Yeah eh shoe a" but in two syllables ? " Yeah Ehshoea" or three syllables " Yeah Eh shoea" ?

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    So, I am correct in its sounding like " Yeah eh shoe a" but in two syllables ?

    It's actually three syllables, dear PSacto (peace to you!) but said so that it sounds like two. Like: yashua. Jah eh shua. Say it slow ("yah... eh... shua"), and you hear the "eh". Say it accurately ("yah... eshua")... which is faster... and you barely hear the "eh".

    And you are quite welcome!

    Peace to you!

    Your servant and fellow slave of Christ,

    SA

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    I thought so ;)

  • GrandmaJones
    GrandmaJones

    Thanks for sharing. Peace to you too!

  • miseryloveselders
    miseryloveselders

    Well Shell, that rhymes by the way, I do find it interesting. I've never engaged you since I started coming here, and I've been meaning to. Not in a the hostile sense of it all, as I have no bone to pick with you. Plus I like the fact that you call me Rooster. It does something for my swagger. I feel like the Foghorn Leghorn of JWN. I look at all the ladies on this message board as my hens. Let me ask you some more questions since you're feeling all domesticated and peaceful.

    If you've recieved so much hostile reception from this corner of the house of God, Israel, why do you continue trying to reason with them?(Luke 7:29-31; Exo 32:9,10) Is not what you're doing as ineffective as JWs doing return visits in Jewish neighborhoods?

    At Matthew 10:11-14 when Jesus gave his disciples instructions, he told them that if the "house is deserving, let your peace rest upon it, if it is not, let your peace return upon you." You've told more people, "to have peace" on this message board than I've seen hippies hold peace signs up in the sixties and seventies. Generally speaking you yourself acknowledge that the reception to either your or your Lord's message has been cold. In verse 14 of that same verse Jesus said, "If anyone will not welcome you, or listen to your words, leave that home or town, and shake the dust of your feet." Shelby I fear it may be time for you to move on and take your message someplace else, because clearly with the exception of a few, your message has fallen upon deaf ears. You mentioned another forum, who's name you've forgotten, but you didn't forget how callous they were towards your Lord's message. So you moved on. Its time to move on from here too, Shelby.

    By the way I'm not elbowing you to leave, I'm sure some people want me gone from here. But I mean it may be time to stop these message from the sky threads, because the results of these kind of threads are far removed from what your intentions are I'm sure.

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    If you've recieved so much hostile reception from this corner of the house of God, Israel, why do you continue trying to reason with them?(Luke 7:29-31; Exo 32:9,10)

    I actually receive much more love and support, dear RoosterHornLegFog (again, peace to you!).

    Is not what you're doing as ineffective as JWs doing return visits in Jewish neighborhoods?

    Not to my understanding. What is posted on the board... and what may be sent to me via PM/email... is very different. LOT of Nicodemuses on this hear Board, my dear Crowing One.

    You've told more people, "to have peace" on this message board than I've seen hippies hold peace signs up in the sixties and seventies. Generally speaking you yourself acknowledge that the reception to either your or your Lord's message has been cold.

    Really? I did not mean to give that impression. It has not been cold. I mean, it hasn't been "Hallelujah, break out the roman candles!" but it hasn't been all bad, either. Not by a LONG shot. I mean, just ONE sheep would be worth the effort. But again, I am trying to work out my own salvation, dear one... and my household's. Not any one else's.

    In verse 14 of that same verse Jesus said, "If anyone will not welcome you, or listen to your words, leave that home or town, and shake the dust of your feet."

    Yes. And I have done that elsewhere...

    Shelby I fear it may be time for you to move on and take your message someplace else, because clearly with the exception of a few, your message has fallen upon deaf ears.

    I am not so sure, dear one. You could be right, but I am not so sure. In order to BE sure, therefore, I will wait instruction from my Lord regarding that. I mean, if that's okay with you and all...

    You mentioned another forum, who's name you've forgotten, but you didn't forget how callous they were towards your Lord's message. So you moved on. Its time to move on from here too, Shelby.

    You really think?

    By the way I'm not elbowing you to leave,

    Uh-huh...

    I'm sure some people want me gone from here.

    No! Seriously? And yet... here you are.

    But I mean it may be time to stop these message from the sky threads, because the results of these kind of threads are far removed from what your intentions are I'm sure.

    You're sure, are you? And just what you are sure my intentions are, again?

    Peace to you, O Cockely-Doodlely One... and I look forward to hearing from you regarding "my" intentions.

    Your servant and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    You are quite welcome, dear Gramma... and the greatest of love and peace to you, my dear!

    YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • miseryloveselders
    miseryloveselders

    Thanks for responding, I'm getting ready to clock out. I'll get at you later tonight. But sincerely, I'm not elbowing you to go anywhere, that's not my place. Who am I to want anyone gone? I'm glad you're here, I just fail to see the effectiveness in your way of handeling the delivery of your Lord's message. I don't have access to your PMs, so if you say you have more Nicodemuses than the young wealthy rich man, well more peace to you dear Shelby. I can't read your mind or heart, but reading your response, I'm under the impression you agree with me more than you wish to admit.

    Anyways I have to clock out. Cockle Doodle Doo until next time Shelb,

    sincerely, MLE.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    sincerely, MLE.

    Are you aware that the acronym of your name phonetically pronounced is Emily?

    -Sab

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