Pioneers studying with people in the nursing homes.

by life is to short 40 Replies latest jw friends

  • life is to short
    life is to short

    Is this a trend that is going on. I live on the west coast and the PO's or COBE's wife has at least one study if not more with a old lady who is totally mentally gone. She has no clue what is going on. Even this pioneer admits that the lady falls asleep while they are studying. The PO's wife is not theo only one that hits the nursing home where I live many do.

    Than I was talking to my girl friend on the east coast who I met at Bethel and who has pioneered for 30 years now as has her brother and they are doing the same thing there.

    My friend says it is nice because they do not have to be in the cold and they are a witnesses to the staff. I know where I live I am told the nursing home staff loves them to come because it makes the old people so happy to have someone that cares about them I do think it helps the staff because for the time the JW's are there they do not need to tend to the person. The families of the old people like it I am told because they cannot be there so much and it gives their mom's or grandparents company.

    I do think it is nice to help older people but it brothers me because these older ones are a trapped audience. To me it is just a way to count time without have to really work for it.

    LITS

  • sir82
    sir82
    To me it is just a way to count time without have to really work for it.

    That's it exactly.

    I see it as pretty harmless. The ones willing to study will likely be the ones just this side of dementia, or beyond. It gives the old folks something to look forward to, it makes the pioneers feel important, gives them some nice statistics, and keeps them occupied from seeking other other, more vulnerable members of Society to foist studies on.

  • blondie
    blondie

    No CD here but didn't the WTS have an experience in a WT study article about a woman who was severely disabled mentally and lived at a nursing home?

  • life is to short
    life is to short

    I to do not see anything wrong with it as it does help the older ones to feel good. The PO's wife makes sure she is there at least two or three times a week for this one lady, then she gets to talk about it at the meetings and brag about her pioneering. I also think it is nice for the nursing home staff as I worked in a nursing home when I was in my late teens and any help was welcomed.

    The only problem I see is if the JW's try to get money from the older people but I do not see that happening because they are just to far gone to be of sound mind.

    To it just shows what a fraud pioneering is though. It is not about saving people from death but just counting time and the JW's saving their own butts.

    LITS

  • african GB Member
    african GB Member

    The old folks probably just need something to pass time on.

    They could'nt seriously be interested in joining a new religion at their age.

  • life is to short
    life is to short

    And yes Bondie there have been a lot of experiences in the WT's about nursing homes. Flipper's latest post was about a teenage girl who has suffered strokes is almost blind, etc and still pioneers as she saves all of her energy for Jehovah and his work.

    LITS

  • sir82
    sir82
    To it just shows what a fraud pioneering is though. It is not about saving people from death but just counting time and the JW's saving their own butts.

    Oh yes, agreed.

    Of all the pioneers I know, maybe 10% take it seriously. For everyone else it's pretty much just keeping up appearances, having a little extra prestige, keeping the hamster wheel turning....perfectly happy to ride around in the minivan with their Starbucks coffee, going to do other people's calls, knocking on empty houses at 10:30 AM on weekday, dropping magazines at an empty bus stop, etc.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    I think a warning letter to nursing home staff would be appropriate, especially as the WT has a love for people's estates.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Our local news team interviewed a death doula, to help they dying through transition. My (JW) hubby showed much interest and talked through the night about the opportunity to tell the dying the truth. I strongly believe that the vulnerable should be left alone. What they need at these times is their wishes respected. If they've been a lifetime smoker, for instance, now is not the time to advise them to quit.

    I told him if a sweet old lady asked him to tell her all about the Jehovah's Witnesses, go ahead. But don't impose beliefs where they haven't been asked. He asked if I cared that they were condemned? I told him God's Holy Spirit is well able to speak to people's hearts and we should trust people to ask in their own time.

    He asked what he could do, and I told him to do the same as he did for his mother. Sit quietly and listen.

  • minimus
    minimus

    nothing like a captured audience.

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