The Gentile Times Reconsidered

by Spade 382 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • palmtree67
    palmtree67

    This:

    How the Good News tastes has everything to do with you and innate changes you've made in your personality;

    Is followed quickly by this:

    This just means I'm glad I'm not you.

    Do you really believe that comment reflects Christ in YOUR personality, Alice?

    It seems you always resort to personality attacks and "Haha, I can't wait to see you all destroyed!" when you are backed into a corner and don't have answers for a question that you, yourself actually raised.

  • bobld
    bobld

    The WBTS/GB used the Bible to come up with the 1914 date.The WBTS/GB used the bible to say the generation that saw 1914 would not pass away before the end of this system.I told them they were wrong about 1914 /generation,they gave me the boot.Then they saw the light.

    They were wrong than,now I am waiting for them to say the 1914 year was wrong.So I can gave them the boot.

    B

  • villabolo
    villabolo

    Mary: "...Alice is drunk on Watchtower Kool-Aid.."

    Shouldn't "drunk" read "high"? I heard it was a drug in that little bottle.

    Villabolo

  • diamondiiz
    diamondiiz

    Spade/Alice tell us how does it feel knowing you will die at Armageddon? You believe in WTS doctrine while you are not baptized, not obeying GB and not inside god's "ark" that just means you will be killed at Armageddon! How does it feel to support wts while at the same time knowing that you will be destroyed? Please share your feelings on this little fact. Why bother post wts nonsense here when you will be destroyed by your god who takes great displeasure in people disobeying governing body whom he trusts. If you have kids, your posting on an apostate site will result in their deaths as well, haven't you read enough of watchtower publication to know this fact? Why do you continue to come here and post wts ideas to people who obviously will not save you from Armageddon? You should be at the KH pioneering, knocking on doors and staying away from us apostates. Do you really have a death wish?

  • dgp
    dgp

    I very much enjoyed this post. Honest to YHWH! May a lightning strike on me if I am lying! I enjoyed it a lot because it gave me a chance to read Farkel's posts. Thank you, Spade!

  • Joey Jo-Jo
    Joey Jo-Jo

    Spade wrote If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through. 2 Corinthians 4:3-4

    This just means I'm glad I'm not you.

    Yeah.. ok you may want to read that again, its the good news of Jesus not Jehovah, you know the one you guys never preach about.

    How about Spade Deut 18:21 ""How will we know whether or not a prophecy is from the L ORD ?” If the prophet speaks in the L ORD ’s name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the L ORD did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without My authority and need not be feared.

  • pirata
    pirata

    The reason “these nations” was used in Jeremiah 25:11 is because the nation of Israel divided in 997 B.C.E. The Northern Kingdom was taken by Assyria and the Southern Kingdom by Babylon. Although Nebuchadnezzar held supreme rulership during Jerusalem's destruction, not every nation and surrounding region could have become a devastated place and taken into captivity. The context clearly indicates the prophecy was primarily against the tribe of Judah:

    *** w63 1/15 p. 45 par. 16 The Challenge of the “Good News” ***
    following the death of King Solomon in 997 B.C., the original nation of Israel was divided into two kingdoms, the ten-tribe kingdom of Israel to the north with Samaria as capital, and the two-tribe kingdom of Judah to the south with Jerusalem as capital. The northern ten-tribe kingdom was destroyed by the Assyrians in 740 B.C., and then in 607 B.C. the kingdom of Judah was destroyed by the Babylonians.

    When this prophecy was uttered the ten-tribe kingdom no longer existed. According to secular records the 10-tribe kingdom was destroyed in 720BC (or according to the WT Chronology it was destroyed in 720 BC). By the time Jeremiah uttered his prophecy the ten-tribe kingdom had ceased to exist as a nation.

  • Spade
    Spade
    *** w63 1/15 p. 45 par. 16 The Challenge of the “Good News” ***
    following the death of King Solomon in 997 B.C., the original nation of Israel was divided into two kingdoms, the ten-tribe kingdom of Israel to the north with Samaria as capital, and the two-tribe kingdom of Judah to the south with Jerusalem as capital. The northern ten-tribe kingdom was destroyed by the Assyrians in 740 B.C., and then in 607 B.C. the kingdom of Judah was destroyed by the Babylonians.
    When this prophecy was uttered the ten-tribe kingdom no longer existed. According to secular records the 10-tribe kingdom was destroyed in 720BC (or according to the WT Chronology it was destroyed in 720 BC). By the time Jeremiah uttered his prophecy the ten-tribe kingdom had ceased to exist as a nation.

    If you choose to go this route simply to disprove the divine prophecy, the prophecy in still has direct application to Jerusalem as foretold in Daniel 9:1-2:

    In the first year of Da·ri′us the son of A·has·u·e′rus of the seed of the Medes, who had been made king over the kingdom of the Chal·de′ans; in the first year of his reigning I myself, Daniel, discerned by the books the number of the years concerning which the word of Jehovah had occurred to Jeremiah the prophet, for fulfilling the devastations of Jerusalem, [namely,] seventy years. Daniel 9:1-2

    The evidence is overwhelming even if some choose to ignore the evidence.

  • villabolo
    villabolo

    Villabolo

  • garyneal
    garyneal
    Take on Allymom's challenge (the same as Farkel's challenge) and show us all the mistake in a tabulated form, complete with references.

    586/587 the K.I.S.S. approach --- no VAT4956, Ptolemy, Josephus needed
    Scholar hasn't done it. Thirdwitness hasn't done it. Alice.in.wonderland hasn't done it. debator hasn't done it. Your own precious church hierarchy hasn't done it.

    You can be the first.

    I concur with Black Sheep. I too am waiting for an answer to the whole selection in 1919.

    I've asked my wife on multiple occasions and she so far hasn't done it. Don't you know the implications of this?

    If Jesus did indeed select the Society as His FDS back in 1919 then they do indeed have the authority that they claim to have. Why do witnesses believe in the Bible? Because they believe it has authority. Why do they believe in Christ? Because they believe in His authority. If the society truly has the authority that they claim to have, then they should be able to prove it.

    The blood doctrine? No problem, because the Watchtower says that God says that fractions are okay but major components are not. I don't understand it, but the slave does and the slave has proven that it has authority given to it by God.

    See where this can lead? Prove 1914 and you will make a witness out of me.

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