How can they claim that every prophecy in the bible has a greater fulfilment today???

by highdose 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • highdose
    highdose

    Seems that the GB take every story they can in the bible and claim that although it happened then, it will also happen now. Although this time it will be the GB who is Jehosophat, David, Paul, Jermiah... etc etc take your pick

    What scriptual basis do they have for this belief???

  • Listener
    Listener

    Good question and why call it greater, as if the prophecy is more importantly going to be fulfilled in our day?

  • trevor
    trevor

    highdose This is something I have always found strange. It would make more sense to call the first fulfillment 'the greater' followed by the lesser - like the diminishing ripples on a pond.

    Why stop at just two fulfilments? Lets have a fulfillment during every generation - to infinitum.

  • Curtains
    Curtains

    highdose - from what I have read this was a common practice in the first century being common practice in mythmaking. The difference though is that both audience and mythmaker would have been aware that stories and prophecies from the past were being retold to benefit the present generation and to reshape the future.

    Another point - how far the mythmaker would go in excluding all other opinions depended on how despotic the leader for whom the myth was being re-done was.

    edit: I love stories and would love to be part of a religious organisation that retells myths with a present context in mind but would not like to see this sold as the one truth.

    I must be a fence sitter - lol

  • wobble
    wobble

    The Jews were masters at this, probably still are, re-telling the stories of their scriptures and making them applicable to their day.

    Often the stories would be changed considerably from the earlier versions to make the lesson contempory.

    In my opinion that is a very good use of scripture, but no Jew would be looking for a literal fulfillment in his own day, he would simply be learning how to live, by the lessons of the past.

    The WT has no mandate to interpret the Bible the way they do, in fact the WT has no mandate to do anything at all, only what 7plus million members allow them to do.

  • finallyfree!
    finallyfree!

    it makes no friggin sense!! its a liberty the wts has taken to confuse and mess with peoples heads. they bombard people so much with bs information that people dont know what to think.

  • transhuman68
    transhuman68

    The GB are a bunch of arrogant deluded S.O.B's. There is no basis for any of their crap.

  • drewcoul
    drewcoul

    Highdose:

    I have wondered this many times. Things that happened in the OT aren't prophecies. They are stories. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate that anything in the OT would have two fulfillments. The only thing that has a future fulfillment are prophecies. I can understand using OT stories as examples, and showing the moral of a story, but to say that everything in the OT is a prophecy just because it happened once is ludicrous.

  • wobble
    wobble

    You should see what Rutherford did with his sort of thing, abso-bloody-lutely MAD.

    Even the camels that Rachel watered in Genesis have a greater fulfillment !

    crazy Crazy Crazy ! And yet they teach more of this looney stuff to the guys who go to Gilead to this day !!!

  • elderelite
    elderelite

    Interesting thread... But i wonder if you mean "how" or "why"? Two different questions, two seperate answers, but both the same result

    How is easy.. Same way they can claim that out of 7billion people god choose them... Say it enough and somone will believe it. All about control :-)

    Why is also easy and ultimatly same result... Control. If every little word in bible has "modern day fullilment" then you have to have it explained... And who better than the select few god has choosen to do the explaining :-)

    All quite simple. And all about control. It is after all a cult.

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