How can they claim that every prophecy in the bible has a greater fulfilment today???

by highdose 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    They used to do this even more, in excruciatingly boring detail, back when Crazy Freddie was writing the books.

    And IIRC, it was AwakenedAtGilead's experience with this kind of crap during Gilead education that started his awakening. I'll do a quick search and post back if I find it.

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  • jay88
    jay88

    The same reason that Aesop's Fables' have greater fulfillment today, because I am a live.

  • jehovahsheep
    jehovahsheep

    its funny how they breakdown matt 24-this verse means then and this verse means now.most of christendoms churches do the same.the problem is :EVERYTHING has been fufilled.you have to die in order to enter the kingdom.

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    In Matthew 24, Jesus was speaking to the generation of Jews in Jerusalem in the first century. In verse 20 he states that they should pray that their flight does not occur on the Sabbath, which makes no sense, because Jesus has already demonstrated that when it comes to saving your ass, the Sabbath takes a back seat. Then, in verse 21, he states: "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world's beginning until now, no, nor will occur again."

    What part of "nor will occur again" leaves any room for any "antitypical fulfillment"?

    When I was still a Bible believer, this left me hopelessly perplexed. It doesn't any more.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Lets have a fulfillment during every generation - to infinitum.

    Actually..........you don't need fulfillments during every generation for it to extend into infinitum......Just ONE generation that continues to overlap.

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    This thread is not complete without a mention of the Seven Trumpets being fulfilled by some assembly in Indiana that every single witness alive has now totally forgotten (or never even heard of).

    This is pure delusional religious hubris.

  • FatFreek 2005
    FatFreek 2005

    ProdigalSon: What part of "nor will occur again" leaves any room for any "antitypical fulfillment"?

    That's an exception to the rules -- The Rules Committee. By the way, we're the rules committee and we just made that one up.

    Len

  • Pahpa
    Pahpa

    The Watchtower Society has been very arbitrary in its use of "type-antitype"

    applications. Some of them have been outright ridiculous. Remember the publication

    that gave sundry examples of the anti-typical "other sheep" class? None of them had

    a scriptural basis. All were created out of the attempt of the Watchtower to push its

    own doctrine. And one of its worst explanations of prophecy was the "trumpet blasts"

    of Revelation applied to announcements made at various assemblies between 1922 and 1928.

    We were gullible in those days. Anything from the Watchtower was accepted as "truth."

  • Franklin Massey
    Franklin Massey

    Good thread. I always wondered this too. I thought, "Maybe they have explained this already and I missed it. Maybe there is something in the Bible that says everything will happen again on a larger scale." So I researched it. There is no basis to assume that a Biblical account/story was supposed to have prophetical undertones that would resurface in the future. There is no basis to assume that a "prophecy" that was already "fulfilled" was actally supposed to have a another go around in the future.

    If it doesn't say so in the Bible, then why invent it?

    The best I can figure is that people want so badly for a miracle to happen. They want deliverance. They want to feel special. So they begin the task of looking for clues to a puzzle that doesn't actually exist. They will go as far a structuring their own lives to fit the imaginary puzzle. "See, it is happening again because we are making it happen!"

    Have you read the book/seen the movie "A Beautiful Mind?" I feel like apocalyptic religious leaders are operating on that level.

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