How can they claim that every prophecy in the bible has a greater fulfilment today???

by highdose 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  FatFreek 2005

  A large number of prophecies had their initial application or fulfillment on the contemporary people, many prophecies expressing God’s judgment on fleshly Israel and surrounding nations and foretelling Israel and Judah’s overthrow and subsequent restoration. Yet these prophecies did not lose their value for later generations, as for the Christian congregation, either in the first century C.E. or in our own time. The apostle says: "For all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope." (Ro 15:4) Insight, Vol 2 p. 692 Prophecy

  That's our position about the matter and we're sticking to it -- The Rules Committee.
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  BluesBrother

  This seems to have been more common in the recent past, we had an old Victorian Bible with notes by a clergyman and that was full of the similar "type and anti type" comparisons ..

  It is easy to find parallels if you want to.
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  ProdigalSon

  About those insignificant conventions fulfilling Revelation, I think it was somewhat credible at the time because the alternative, a much more literal fulfillment of the horrors of this prophecy, was too much to comprehend. I mean, what the hell would be left of anything after these events?

  The absolute best part of the Revelation Hijack book was the cartoon of the Christendom priest with an arrow in his ass from the locust invasion.... phew....what a relief...... just a bunch of tracts from the holy printing presses at Bethel......
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  Pahpa

  Of course, there is a large difference between "instruction" and prophecy.

  One is for encouragement and comfort. The other is for specific revelation.

  The lessons drawn from instruction are beneficial. But prophecy is a test

  of the authenticity of the prophet. (Deut. 18) In the latter, the Watchtower

  has been a miserable failure in spite of its disclaimers.
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  Nathan Natas

  From the beginning, the religion taught by Charles Taze Russell was a dispensationalist religion. What this means is that they believe that history can be seen as a series of divinely appointed "age": if you've ever seen one of the early bible Students charts, that is exactly what they were getting at.

  

  Jehovah';s Witnesses no longer advertise their dispensationalist origins, but they still cling to the underlying philosophy: that history repeats itself.

  Thus, everything that happened back in "Bible Days" has some kind of greater fulfillment in this age. Presumably, the things that happen today will also be echoed at some future time, though the WTB&TS has never, as far as I know, come right out and said this.

  This is a stupid and addle-brained doctrine from the early 19th century. According to wikipedia, "As a system, dispensationalism is rooted in the writings of John Nelson Darby (1800-1882) and the Brethren Movement."

  It isn't something that CTR came up with on his own, it is simply another one of many ideas that CTR borrowed from to cobble together his particular form of "Godly devotion."

  It is great fertilizer for your spring garden.
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  FatFreek 2005

  Came the year 1925 and the fourth angelic trumpeter stood poised for action. His trumpet was blown and a third of the sun, moon and stars were smitten and darkened. (Rev. 8:12) During a regional convention at Indianapolis, Indiana, on August 24-31, 1925, God’s servants heartily endorsed a resolution under the title "Message of Hope." It made loving expressions, but also showed that the people had fallen into darkness in Christendom, which claims to be the world’s spiritual light. Yearbook, 1975, p. 137 Part 2--United States of America

  In the place of that horrible darkness in Christendom, those conventioneers were looking forward to the wonderful light of true Christianity that was only 5 weeks away:

  "The year 1926 would therefore begin about October first, 1925. We should, therefore, expect shortly after 1925 to see the awakening of Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Melchisedec, Job, Moses, Samuel, David, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, John the Baptist, and others mentioned in the eleventh chapter of Hebrews. ... No doubt many boys and girls who read this book will live to see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Daniel, and those other men of old come forth in the glory of their better resurrection, of perfect in mind and body. It will not take long for Christ to appoint them to their post of honor and authority as his earthly representatives. The world and all the present conveniences will seen strange to them at first, but they will soon become accustomed to the new methods. They may have some amusing experiences at first; for they never saw telephones, radios, automobiles, electric lights, aeroplanes, steam engines, and many other things so familiar to us." The Way to Paradise, 1924 pp.224,226

  How memorable, indeed.

  Len
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  OUTLAW

  How can they claim that every prophecy in the bible has a greater fulfilment today???

  .....HighDose

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  Although frowned upon by Most People,for Sanitary Reasons..

  The WBT$ is a Double Dipping Organization..

  

  .........................OUTLAW
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  RubaDub

  one of its worst explanations of prophecy was the "trumpet blasts" of Revelation applied to announcements made at various assemblies between 1922 and 1928.

  Whoa !!!!

  Back off pal.

  The horn-blowing in 1922 put Cedar Point Ohio on the map.

  Rub a Dub
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  Scully

  Making the claim is not the same as the claim being true.

  The reason they make the claim is that they know their followers need such claims [baseless as they are] to continue using the product of cult membership. For a religious group that's had no prophetic "wins" in over 125 years, the new claims are needed to keep the members from becoming disenfranchised and walking out. The new claims are like the con-artist who keeps asking his investors victims for a little more money and/or a little more time before they get the big payoff.

  The WTS has so many baseless prophetic claims that it has over 6 million people investing their time, money, and lives in its bull$h!t.
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  Finally-Free

  The horn-blowing in 1922 put Cedar Point Ohio on the map.

  Good point. If it wasn't for the watchtower I probably never would have heard of Cedar Point.

  Cedar Point should probably sue the watchtower. Every time I hear of Cedar Point now I think negative thoughts. I'm sure I'm not the only one. The watchtower should pay for having smeared Cedar Point's reputation.

  W