by LivingTheDream 42 Replies latest members private
Lunatic Faith,
Thanks, I'm glad too. It's strange, but the last few weeks there I knew 100% that I was totally wasting my time. Yet I stayed there out of principle to finish off my even years in service even though I should have just got on that plane as soon as possible.
I still scratch my head about that.
LivingTheDream
jgnat,
I wasn't going to say these things at first on this site, but what the heck, here goes:
After all these things I experienced, I still believe in God and I still believe there is a "kindly yoke" and a "light load" to carry. I just don't believe Jehovah's Witnesses have it.
I am practicing my faith now with my wife in the way that I am happy to do it and it feels 100% better than it ever did when I was a JW. When this load starts to feel "heavy", I take a break from it. I have done this a number of times.
I promised myself that I would never again be subjected to the kind of guilt and mind control I experienced as a younger man, but that didn't mean for me that I would give up my spiritual side either.
I'm still working at it.
LivingTheDream
Him: We're all tired brother. This world tires us all out. Now is not the time to give up. Now is the time to persevere diligently.
His words are a contradiction. At Bethel, you are supposed to be as close to god as humanly possible. So logically, one should never be tired at Bethel, because it is reputed to be a giant Disney World version of a Spiritual Paradise™. I'm sure you noticed, though, that there are just as many snakes in that Paradise™ as in any other Worldly™ enterprise. That's what makes Bethel exhausting - the duplicitous nature of the Brothers™ whose friendship and love is conditional upon you toeing the line and being just as miserable as they are.
Scully,
Amen. I couldn't put it any better.
LivingTheDream
Gotta luv how they make any of your hopes and dreams completely insignificant....you are there to work and slave away for the CULT....and that is what it is....a freakin CULT, and the very fact that they don't give two shits about your well-being at ALL, proves it!!! No compassion, no concern whatsoever about your wants and desires, it's all about what benefits the CULT.....your life and wishes mean nothing to them- NOTHING!!!
I am half way through Steven Hassan's 1st book, "Combatting Cult Mind Control" and I can easily say now what for CULT this psuedo-religion is....I hope that you read his books as well and release yourself from any lingering bondage effects you may still carry with you.
I love the part were they claim that the "world" is what is beating you down.....Hello?? Anyone in there? You weren't in "the world" you were in Bethel for several years, so how in the hell can they blame the world? Oh that's right, cause they are conditioned to like Pavlov's Dogs.....your mental stresses couldn't possibly be from the labourious, torturous environment of working on a mind-numbing printing press for 9 hours a day and no personal life...oh hell no!! It's gotta be something in the world......Satan has gotten to you!!! --- That is some fugged up shit reasoning right there!! The fact that they washed their hands of you right there on the spot shows what for shallow non-friends they were, doesn't it? What Pharisees.....wolves in sheep's clothing...... having a form of Godly devotion, but proving false to it's powers. SICK.
So glad you woke up and took the red pill.
- Wing Commander
'I would return home and not keep one single friend from that place.
Not a one.'
Puzzling. I understand it, but have a hard time accepting the reality. I went through a similar version of it, when i exited. Still puzzled, though.
S
WingCommander,
I remember once a Bethelite made the mistake of telling one of the Governing Body he was talking to that he came to Bethel because he wanted to go into the missionary work. He thought Bethel would be a nice stepping stone to that ministry. He was trying to impress the GB, but instead the GB got indignant with him and said "What are you talking about? There is no higher form of service in God's organization than Bethel unless you are annointed and die and go to heaven!"
So, it was thought by all Bethelites that this place should be the Shangri-La of the JW world. Yet there we were, miserable. It didn't add up.
Well, it does now.
LivingTheDream
LivingTheDream, I guess I will go through that a little by people who have not seen me for awhile. I just step as an elder back in Dec. I was one for over 24 years. Oh boy can't wait for all the fun. Sorry you had to go through that. Totally ADD
TotallyADD,
Well, I appreciate the sentiment, but it was not your fault I went through that, and I truly hope you don't. There were some nice people who treated me well when I left Bethel, but I found that the wave of peer pressure to "mark" people or judge them or treat them indifferently is just too strong for even the nicest JWs to resist. Eventually, they all move in one step, and that step is usually one of self righteous judgementalism, not human sympathy and reasonable understanding.
It's what Jehovah's Witnesses do best actually: judge other people, then each other.
LivingTheDream
strange and stupid words from Brother and Sister Uptight, and as Scully says their stupid words are so contradictory about the world "tiring us out" how far removed from the real world are Bethelites FFS, and how do they know how tiring the world is if they have been institutionalized for so many years, the reality is the Bethel is tiring out the poor workers there, the World would be a breeze in comparison, wonder what ever happened to them?
