Why I no longer believe the Bible is "God's Word" and I no longer believe in "God"

by lifeisgood 79 Replies latest jw friends

  • PublishingCult
    PublishingCult
    But with billions of christians out there, I am not sure how one can judge MOST of them as "fake loving".

    That's easily explained through logic.

    Even the Bible says that there is no fear in love.

    The Judeo-Christian tradition of faith in this invisibile being is based on coercion and fear, therefore, Christian love cannot be real love.

    Without religion we would simply have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, now that takes God and religion.

  • wobble
    wobble

    Lifeisgood , thanks for your post.

    Your journey away from the JW/WT cult is very similar to mine, and you sound like a similar character to me in the way you behaved when in.

    I was a royal pain in the A to them, hence, although I accepted the role of MS ,as I saw this as simply helping other JW's , not a high position, rather a servant, I was never appointed as an Elder, perhaps mainly because I made it plain I would not accept.

    After leaving I studied the bible, without WT specs on, and found it wanting, and then I considered the existence of God, and found no proof that He/She exists.

    What do you think of the "Other Universes" theory ? I like to push back the thought of the First Cause as far as I can, I think that is more humbling than thinking that "our" Universe was the first physical thing in existence.

    As to the Myths and Legends being so similar, I think we do not realise how much intercourse, in an intellectual sense, there was between what seem quite different cultures and ethnic groups back in history.

    Also there is only seven basic plotlines for any story, so to tell a hugely different one about Creation say, is not so likely, also all the "authors" are coming from the same knowledge base.

    I just love it when I come across similarities between the Mythos of Christ, also the teachings of Jesus, and what is already out there in the teachings and myths of other cultures. It seems he said little that was original or unique.

    Thanks again for the thread.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut
    I don't believe that the Bible was "inspired" from God. If you read the Bible honestly you see that it is ridiculous. Fables, horrific crimes passed off as the actions of "God's children", and made up stories presented to us as "the word of God". Seriously? The Creator of the Universe writes a book for us and it is this nonsense? I don't believe it.

    You and I would get along great. One thing that seemed important to me, after realizing that whatever JW's had wasn't "the truth," was to see if the truth was "out there." Starting with the Bible and Christianity, I quickly realized it wasn't in there, either. Reading eastern thoughts, I did find some interesting and profound thoughts on peace of mind, but not the truth of how it all started. Science doesn't have all the answers, but they admit that and are doing the best job of looking. "The Big Bang" is just their current theory and I imagine it will be ditched one day, but only because Science continues searching for facts and doesn't get hung up on anything like a doctrine.

    Like you, I don't have all the answers about "the beginning" but I am not going to linger in mythology until those answers come. I imagine you would enjoy THE BIBLE UNEARTHED by Finkelstein and Silberman ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_Unearthed ) You might enjoy BEFORE THE BIG BANG by Brian Clegg. ( http://www.amazon.com/Before-Big-Bang-Prehistory-Universe/dp/0312385471 )

  • im stuck in
    im stuck in

    lifeisgood,

    Yes It is true all of the myths are essentially the same and truth be know the world needs them, the desire to live without myths has brought about the lives we all see today in the news. That said I beleive that we all have to live our own lives. We are the center of our universe and God is in us. This is the only life we have live it to the fullest and do what we want to do. There may be another life to come but it will not be this one. Be kind to others be loving to others. If all were to live their lives this way the world would be a better place but not in the way JWs say. Religion is just as ol RUTHERFORD SAID "A SNARE AND A RACKET" and the Watchtower is the worst of the worst.They promote hate not love, they destroy lives all in the name of religion and a false God.

    Since all must do what they want in life ie be religious, be athiest it is their choice do it. For these reasons I have given up trying to get my wife to leave the Watchtower that is her life I do not want it for me but I love her and will until the end. If she wants me I will be the best I can to her.

    I am now happy and look forward to the rest of my life. stuck in

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento
    Without religion we would simply have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, now that takes God and religion.

    Fascinating and it has been prove to be incorrect over and over and the 20th century is a prime example of such.

    But go ahead and keeping saying it, they say if you say soemthing enough and enough people believe it, then it must be true.

  • tec
    tec

    PSac, you are taking the words out of my mouth lately. ^

  • tec
    tec

    Lifeisgood, I'm glad you showed love where very little of it is actually being shown. It sounds as if it is an important part of your life. I also do not believe the bible is the word of God. Rather only that Christ is the Word of God. The bible can give us impressions of what the people thought, it can give us their witness accounts to Christ and what they saw; it gives us history of the people, myths, morals, poetry, songs, prophecy and laws. But Christ, himself, paints the true picture of His Father. You see that God is love when you see Christ - because God is as Christ showed Him to be. Not as men show him to be, not even just as a book shows him to be. But you have to look through Christ. Once you can do that, you can also see where some things are man's ideas about God, and false, and what things are true.

    I trust that you have done your own research, and you can make your own choice, of course. I just didn't see very much of Christ in your opening post.

    Peace to you,

    Tammy

  • lifeisgood
    lifeisgood

    tec,

    Christ is a myth. The Bible is some half truths combined with lies being told to paint the insane, murderous Israelites as "holy people", and many lies, and some fantasy, and some philosophy.

    'God' as presented in the Bible is a myth. This 'God' does not exist. No Christlike being can redeem us from sin because sin is a madeup idea. There was no garden of Eden and no perfect human pair that was led into sin by Satan. The entire story is nonsensical and similar stories are found in mythologies that predate the first book of the Bible. Since sin does not exist and there was no time when humans were perfect and living forever, then Christ as explained in the Bible serves no purpose. The whole thing is made up.

  • pontoon
    pontoon

    OK, I also have a problem with the violence in the bible. I've said that before. But, just a point, First Cause, or God made man in his image, not the other way around. So, as you said how could God have human charateristics, it is really the other way around, humans have God's charateristics. That would also explain the violent nature of humans at times.

  • tec
    tec
    Since sin does not exist

    Sin is just wrongdoing, and I don't think you'll argue that this does exist.

    Since sin does not exist and there was no time when humans were perfect and living forever, then Christ as explained in the Bible serves no purpose.

    Christ as explained by the WTS, yes, I agree.

    But note how Christ does not once say that he came to die for original sin, or for the sin of Adam, but rather for our sins (wrongdoings) - and making amends by doing what we should have been doing all along. He also came to bear witness to the truth, to show people the way to life and to his Father, to show us how we should live (love, forgiveness, mercy, not judging, not doing wrong for wrong). He set us an example to follow as best we can, and we are to look to him to see God.

    But to say that his purpose was this tit-for-tat ransom exchange diminishes Him greatly. That's what they believe and teach and we know that they are liars... so why continue to believe what they taught about him and/or his purpose?

    You say that God as presented in the bible is a myth. I agree... to a point. There is a mixture of truth and men's ideas about Him. But God as shown by Christ is the Truth. (even if you consider it all a myth, in the myth, the god shown by Christ is the truth) Even if you're just looking at the bible, that is what the bible also says to do. Look to Christ. That in mind, I have never understood (speaking of people in general here, not of you) why do people continue to look to the OT to see God? Too many did not understand God, and so taught falsehoods about Him and what He wanted. So we have Christ to show us the truth about His Father.

    Tammy

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