I'm a Mess (page 2)

Broken Promises

I have begged the elders who Jehovah told me are 'spirit appointed'

How were you told that they were "spirit appointed"? Did you get a vision or a voice from heaven?

Heaven

I am screaming for Jehovah: "If you are there... if everything we have devoted our lives to was for real... HELP US NOW!!!"...

Why am I getting a "Not In Service" signal?

Jehovah isn't there. What you devoted your lives to wasn't exactly real although I would say some aspects were. Living a principled life with love and kindness never fails.

You are going to have to undertake a major sifting effort to deal with what is and is not truth. We all have had to do this. We all have had to find our own paths. I could tell you what to believe in but I think you need to do the sifting yourself to fully comprehend what works for you and what does not.

HIS, are you a mess regarding your Spiritual self or are the other parts (Physical, Emotional, and Mental) also a mess?

headisspinning

Okay, well first to Jookbeard... I think we better hash this out in PM... Just lay it on me. I am totally open to hearing your thoughts. I think you've taken the time to read over all my postings and I am just thankful that SOMEONE will play the Devil's Advocate and tell the the other side. So, please lay it on me and I am more than open to your opinion. I just want the truth and even if it's hard, I can take it. Okay? Are you up for that?

To Broken Promises... I think it's more like THEY told me that Jehovah told THEM to tell us that They are spirit appointed. Was that more accurate?

I am very confused... sheesh.

jookbeard

I'd rather lay it out in the full open TBH HiS, I dont do the PM thing

VampireDCLXV

HIS;

is it any wonder you are a mess with your record?

This is not the time or place for that, jook...

V665 V665

Broken Promises

Why not, Vamp? Any decision a person makes has consequences. And decisions people make are often a result of their values and beliefs.

headisspinning

Okay... well this is the PM I sent to JOOK...

Hi Bob aka Jookbeard

I noticed you've taken a dislike to several of my postings and that is more than okay. I also realized that you are away from your wife. I have no idea of the circumstances but if you have suffered as a result of adultery, I more than understand your aversion to my situation.

It's totally okay and if you're angry, please feel free to share those feelings with me. I feel like I deserve it and it would almost be helpful for me to be able to hear some of the thoughts and feelings from the other side.

Anyway,

I'm a very open person and don't feel shy about lashing out. I can take it.

:) HeadIsSpinning

tec

I agree with Vamp, despite what HIS is asking for. Because I could be wrong, but it sounds as if you think you deserve to be hurt, and so are inviting Jook to do just that. It would be like kicking someone when they're down and asking you to kick them. No one else has the right to judge you.

Tammy

jamiebowers

I just wanted everything to be okay and normal.

Well, here's the thing, my dear...your life isn't normal, because you were born into a cult that kicked you to the curb and is showing no interest in having you back any time soon, all for appearances sake. That can be quite shocking at first, but eventually you'll accept it and move on. But there will always be that old familiar shock once in a while. I've been out for 23 years, and I still feel it now and again, especially when someone asks if my mother is still living, (she's shunned me the whole time).

What you must do is find your own version of normal. You can do it with the help of therapy and good friends, and your husband can too. There's a man on this board who has had very similar experiences to your husband, and almost all of us know what it's like to learn the truth about the "truth".

I am just overwhelmed with horrible guilt. I feel like after everything Jehovah has done for me... the 'Spiritual Paradise'.. the "love of the brothers'... and here I am falling to Satan's wiles and NOT 'proving Satan a Liar'...

Guilt is a useless, destructive emotion. Whatever your actions were, they had nothing to do with Jehovah or Satan, and you never had a spiritual paradise or the love of the brothers. And when you thought you did, you were living a delusional life. Think about the reasons for doing what you did, and recognize them as life lessons. That will get you a whole lot further than guilt and shame.

I'm a Mess

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