How can anybody KNOW god?

by Terry 111 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • lovelylil
    lovelylil

    Amen to Perry! You have it correct my brother in Christ. Peace, Lilly

  • Terry
    Terry

    Terry,

    I just trained two guys from DFW this week and will be going to Dallas frequently in the near future. You will have no excuse to do lunch on one of those trips!

    Perry, I'm off on Mondays and Thursdays.

    We can catch a bite and each write an article about it! "My lunch with a Saint" vs My lunch with an Apostate"

  • FadeToGrey
    FadeToGrey

    How can anyone get to know a fictitious character from an 2000 year old book. Well you can't. Well in your own imagination maybe but thats all.

    It would be like saying I know harry Potter personally. and he's my best friend. and loves me and, well you get the picture.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    The thing is, the way moses and paul speak of god constructing the universe runs contrasry to the evidence. The evidence suggests a continuous process of growth, of accretion of smaller or simpler into bigger and more complex. Evidence suggests that it all started from something analogous to a seed. The whole thing suggests an almost organic process, similar to the growth of a tree. We are simply a product/byproduct of all of that.

    The idea that god made all the stars, the planets, the flora and fauna on planet earth is a gross misrepresentation of the picture. It is that false pic that leads to the idea of a god OUT THERE, separate from the creation and separate from us. It suggests that one day, when we get really good at building space hopping or even universe hooping space ships, we could hop outside this universe and pay our creator a visit. We could perhaps, get him to give us a tour of his little shop, wherein he made adam and eve, where he built the stars, etc. In this pic, it's all mechanistic.

    In the natural, organic scenario, 'god', the source, or whatever, somehow through a process similar to birth or similar to when seeds are sent out by a puffball mushroom gave rise to the 'seed' that grew into our universe. A part or parts of the source are in the universe and in us.

    S

  • Perry
    Perry

    Fade to Grey,

    They only way you could possibly know that God is ficticious, is for you to be All-Knowing, and Omni-Present, ...for you would literally need to search everywhere that there is to search to know that. This feat of course would make you God.

    Why a person would live their life with such ficticious certitude is beyond my ability to comprehend.

  • Perry
    Perry

    Satanus:

    It is that false pic that leads to the idea of a god OUT THERE

    You have admitted to communicating with invisible spirits "OUT THERE". How can you possibly deny the idea of a Creator? Is this what your spirit guides have told you?

    You need Jesus.

  • Was New Boy
    Was New Boy

    Terry your way to in your head.

    I am God...if you have seen me...you have seen god.

    So you see it is possible to "know god!"

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    I'd like to know how Perry is confident and all believing in spirits.

    I sure hope he just didn't read about them in a book.

    If thats true then Harry Potter has magical powers.

    The story of Jesus is just another man made story, a story with a greater intension for a civilization that existed a long time ago.

    If Jesus is going to kill people just for not believing in a story about him, he might not be a god

    worth worshiping or being with for 1000 years.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Perry

    It is that false pic that leads to the idea of a god OUT THERE

    'You have admitted to communicating with invisible spirits "OUT THERE".'

    No, i didn't.

    'How can you possibly deny the idea of a Creator?'

    I don't deny the idea. I know that the idea exists in the minds of millions.

    'Is this what your spirit guides have told you?'

    No.

    You don't understand anything that i have said.

    'You need Jesus.'

    Yah, whatever. How do you know that i don't have jesus, or that jesus hasn't given me his throne, a ring and a robe?

    S

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Perry

    'They only way you could possibly know that God is ficticious, is for you to be All-Knowing, and Omni-Present, ...for you would literally need to search everywhere that there is to search to know that. This feat of course would make you God.

    Why a person would live their life with such ficticious certitude is beyond my ability to comprehend.'

    How do you know that the other gods are ficticious? You would have to be all knowing and omni present, for you to have searched everywhere and not found any of those other gods. That would make you a god, also.

    S

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