Even JWs in todays WT accept the earth is aeons old and formed in geological periods of time
Isn't It Time For Darwinists To Face The Music Of Science?
by Perry 70 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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thetrueone
Religionists like these people who create these kinds of videos are obviously biased, including the information they selectively
sift through to solidify their point.
There are many probable reasons religionists are not willing to open their own intellectual understanding of these scientific
discoveries, some being that it intercedes too much into their already obtained aspects that religion has provided them, such
as power, money, control, personal stature, forgiveness of sins, a established social community with others....etc.
Based in these perceived values, including a general lack of education, its easy to see that evolution is really something from
Satan or one of the other said evil spirits.
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lovelylil
Perry,
Thank you for that video, it was quite interesting. Peace, Lilly
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Perry
With the proof of science please show me that this creator interacts with its creation.
You musta missed the thread about Nick, the man with no arms and no legs a few lines above. Many others have given their testimony as well on what God has done for them. god interacts with those that have made peace with him through Jesus on a pretty much daily basis. It's totally different than what we all experienced as a JW.
On a different note; A lot of my atheist friends I believe have fallen behind with the new atheist light that has been shed forth on the subject of origins. Obviously, Darwins' notions have been proven false to any reasonable person. Otherwise, some of the ardent atheists here would have attempted out of sheer love for their fellowman to enlighten us how irreducible complexity could have evolved, which is a contradiction of terms by the way. But they chose not to.
Yes, the new light is this : THERE IS NO LONGER ANY NEED FOR DARWIN! I know this may come as a shock, but its true. Those still beating the Darwin drum have fallen behind the atheist's fast moving chariot of revelation. And what exactly is that revelation? This: The universe and life appeared from nothing! Bada Bing! Since the facts don't support Darwin, we'll say all this stuff just appeared from nothing!!!
Here's the New Light some atheists aren't in step with yet:
• "It's no miracle, it requires no magic man in the sky, particle/anti-particle pairs just pop into existence constantly." PZ Myers, "Something Comes From Nothing. "http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/02/something_comes_from_nothing.php
• "If this admittedly speculative hypothesis is correct, then the answer to the ultimate question is that the universe is the ultimate free lunch! It came from nothing, and its total energy is zero, but it nevertheless has incredible structure and complexity." Alexei V. Filippenko and Jay M. Pasachoff, "A Universe from Nothing."
• "Lawrence Krauss gives a talk on our current picture of the universe, how it will end, and how it could have come from nothing."
• "So now you have an idea of just what went on in the early Universe, and how we got from nothing to something. But if you want the really short version, it runs like this, 'First there was nothing, then there was the Big Bang, and energy cooled down into matter, and we're made of matter, so here we are.'" Karl S. Kruszelnicki, "News in Science"
• "Prior to the singularity, nothing existed, not space, time, matter, or energy - nothing. So where and in what did the singularity appear if not in space? We don't know." "All About Science"
• "It is now becoming clear that everything can -- and probably did -- come from nothing." Robert A. J. Matthews, physicist, Ashton University, England
• "Space and time both started at the Big Bang and therefore there was nothing before it." Cornell University "Ask an Astronomer."
• "The universe burst into something from absolutely nothing—zero, nada. And as it got bigger, it became filled with even more stuff that came from absolutely nowhere." Discover magazine, April 2002.
• "Maybe the universe itself sprang into existence out of nothingness - a gigantic vacuum fluctuation which we know today as the big bang. Remarkably, the laws of modern physics allow for this possibility. (Pagels, 1982, 247)." --"How the Universe can come from Nothing."
• "Some physicists believe our universe was created by colliding with another, but Kaku [a theoretical physicist at City University of New York] says it also may have sprung from nothing . . . " Scienceline.org
• "Even if we don't have a precise idea of exactly what took place at the beginning, we can at least see that the origin of the universe from nothing need not be unlawful or unnatural or unscientific." Paul Davies, physicist, Arizona State University
• "Assuming the universe came from nothing, it is empty to begin with . . . Only by the constant action of an agent outside the universe, such as God, could a state of nothingness be maintained. The fact that we have something is just what we would expect if there is no God." Victor J. Stenger, atheist, Prof. Physics, University of Hawaii. Author of, God: The Failed Hypothesis. How Science Shows That God Does Not Exist
• "This initial paucity of information is consistent with the notion that the universe sprang from nothing." The Universe Sprang From Nothing, Seth Lloyd, Physicist
• "Few people are aware of the fact that many modern physicists claim that things -- perhaps even the entire universe -- can indeed arise from nothing via natural processes." Creation ex nihilo -- Without God (1997), Atheist, Mark I. Vuletic
• "To understand these facts we have to turn to science. Where did they all come from, and how did they get so darned outrageous? Well, it all started with nothing." --"Fifty Outrageous Animal Facts," Animal Planet
• "To the average person it might seem obvious that nothing can happen in nothing. But to a quantum physicist, nothing is, in fact, something." Discover Magazine "Physics & Math/Cosmology"
• "It is rather fantastic to realize that the laws of physics can describe how everything was created in a random quantum fluctuation out of nothing, and how over the course of 15 billion years, matter could organize in such complex ways that we have human beings sitting here, talking, doing things intentionally." (Alan Harvey Guth theoretical physicist and cosmologist). Discover Magazine, April 1, 2002
• Richard Dawkins: "The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years AFTER THE UNIVERSE EVOLVED OUT OF LITERALLY NOTHING is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice." "From tail to tale on the path of pilgrims in life", The Scotsman (April 9, 2005, CAPS added)
• "But the latest scientific consensus asserts that the universe sprang naturally from nothing because the total energy of the universe equals zero (thanks to negative energy). Nature abhors a void and fills it with quantum fluctuations." "Is Everybody 100% Positive There is no God?" http://www.atheistnexus.org
• "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing...Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist." "Stephen Hawking: God did not create Universe." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11161493THIS IS THE BIGGEST PILE OF HORSE MANURE I HAVE EVER SMELLED. God accurately predicted just this exact kind of utter stupidity in the last days:
1 Timothy 4
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Timothy 6
"keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding ... oppositions of science falsely so called"
False Science - Right on the Money.
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poopsiecakes
Perry - if in fact there is intelligent design behind life, why does it automatically follow that this intelligence must be worshipped or you must die? Or that this intelligence still exists even?
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goddidit
If Behe is such an authority on the matter, why do he need to tell lies?
http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/2007/06/quote_mining_in_eoe.php
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unshackled
This: The universe and life appeared from nothing! Bada Bing! Since the facts don't support Darwin, we'll say all this stuff just appeared from nothing!!!
This has been pointed out over and over again: Evolution has NOTHING to do with the origins of the universe and life. Evolution doesn't say a god can't or doesn't exist. The theory of evolution shows NOT how life started, but how biological life diversified on this planet.
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NomadSoul
Perry, testimonies are not science. I knew you were not going to prove with science that a creator interacts with us. Because there is none.
Anyways, while I wait for your proof. I'll face the music of science with this videos. Enjoy!
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thetrueone
Darwin by the way is very weak figure in the the science of biological evolution, as much more factual evidence has been gather
analyzed and documented since his time.
It seems the religionists like picking on this person because he came up with the original concept and there was little evidence to his
theories of his particular time in comparison today.
There is now mountain of evidence to support this theory, genetic DNA engineering as being just one.
Now lets look at the evidence of gods/spirits as supported by Perry and his religious peers ................
Well there you have it folks.
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DagothUr
Perry, you are threading on dangerous grounds here, so please do not take the whole cream-bowl into your own pie. Scientists have not yet uncovered the big truth about the Big Bang and they are still begining to understand the energy of nothing. By God, just some years ago they were unaware of the existance of exotic matter, or dark matter or anti-matter. No one knows what was before the Big-Bang and what created that unspeakable density of matter that was the primordial egg. But do you REALLY think that a being (if indeed there was a counscient being) capable of compressing quadrillions of gigatons into a cube centimeter of space has left us as proof of his existence a childish and erroneus and heterogenous book known as the Bible, written by men "under inspiration"? For f...k's sake, this being could have written it's name in plain Latin alphabet using galactic clusters as letters!!!
So don't say it yourself and don't quote anyone saying that there was nothing before Big-Bang. It might be true! But we don't know and even scientists do not know for sure. And in either case, what's your point?
Since when is 1 Timothy (and the whole goddamn book) an authority in the field of science???!!! So why are you quoting from it?
