Now the Tea Party dominated Republicans want to enslave children! Yet they have the audacity to say that violent insurrection is needed against those who oppose them!!!

by Terra Incognita 141 Replies latest members politics

  • Terra Incognita
    Terra Incognita

    hybridous:

    "Don't lose perspective here. As deplorable as conditions were for labor (in general) 100 or so years ago, workers, including children chose to be there in those factories. It's not as if the companies rounded up workers at gunpoint and herded them inside. People chose to be there because nasty factory work was better than the alternative of basic subsistance farming."

    The perspective, Hybridous is quite simple. The "choice" those children had was the equivalent of a rapist telling his victim where she wants it.

    Get a morality.

    Where child labor will lead to.

  • Terry
    Terry

    Interesting that Congressman Paul Ryan wants to diminish Federal power on the anniversary of the Civil War.....yet refuses to cut the apron strings for his Federal salary, Federal health care, and Federal retirement.

    Deep analysis on your part!

    Is there a difference between taking medication and overdosing on it?

    Is the remedy to NEVER take medication? Or, is prudent use of something simply wiser than a superabundance?

    I swear, I wonder if there are any reasonable lefties left in the world.

    "Let's cut to the chase Terry; are you advocating that societies let people who are unable to "self-sustain in a competition environment" starve or succomb to illness and die? And if not, what exactly are you advocating for people unable to "self-sustain in a competition environment"."

    Indeed, let us cut to the chase. Terry either believes those things but is too cowardly too admit it or he is a typical self deluded double-thinker who pretends to believe that he believes whatever he says.

    As for those who would accuse me of being rude let me make it quite clear that Terry, in his first response to me, went around calling me silly and fatuous Ohhh, poor baby! I guess you did not read the COMPLETE CONTEXT of those sentences, did you? Check them to see if they were "conditional". As far as answering the question of what WE are to DO with the non self-sustaining members of society. First of all, we don't need the FALLACY of EITHER/OR (False Dichotomy). There are actually (I know it is hard for you to grasp) MORE THAN TWO alternatives. Is that shocking? Consider this. Society is everybody. When you mandate behavior in society you FORCE EVERYBODY by law. What genuine Conservatives point out is that PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS operate more efficiently in providing for the under-priviledged than GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS. Secondly, freedom in choice of how charity is to be handled removes the possibility that forced participation violates conscience. You see (I'm sure you DO) the REAL ISSUE we are discussing is that GOVERNMENT is lousy at accomplishing things by spending money. Private industry, Individuals in the Private Sector are more efficient. There is waste, fraud, abuse and incompetence in Government Programs which leads to over burdening SOCIETY unnecessarily. Charity exists and always existed BEFORE the central Government bullied their way in. Now will YOU acknowledge this is the REAL answer or go back to your False Dichotomy? A private foundation usually derives its principal fund from an individual, family, corporation, or some other single source and is more often than not a grantmaker and does not solicit funds from the public.

  • Terry
    Terry

    Here is some ipecac for you in the form of an excerpt from Galt's speech in Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand:

    And then there's your 'brother-love' morality. Why is it moral to serve others, but not yourself? If enjoyment is a value, why is it moral when experienced by others, but not by you? Why is it immoral to produce something of value and keep it for yourself, when it is moral for others who haven't earned it to accept it? If it's virtuous to give, isn't it then selfish to take?

    Your acceptance of the code of selflessness has made you fear the man who has a dollar less than you because it makes you feel that that dollar is rightfully his. You hate the man with a dollar more than you because the dollar he's keeping is rightfully yours. Your code has made it impossible to know when to give and when to grab.

    You know that you can't give away everything and starve yourself. You've forced yourselves to live with undeserved, irrational guilt. Is it ever proper to help another man? No, if he demands it as his right or as a duty that you owe him. Yes, if it's your own free choice based on your judgment of the value of that person and his struggle. This country wasn't built by men who sought handouts. In its brilliant youth, this country showed the rest of the world what greatness was possible to Man and what happiness is possible on Earth.

    Then it began apologizing for its greatness and began giving away its wealth, feeling guilty for having produced more than its neighbors.

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech

    terry, there is no reasoning with Villabolo, he got kicked out for this same reason...........

    he blames the whole world for being a supermarket underpaid clerk

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech

    terry, in my area the worst politicians hitting the corruptions scandals news: are democrats

  • DaCheech
  • Tempered
    Tempered

    Choose your path in life. Train your children. Do your best. Quit your bitching. There are no excuses

  • Terry
    Terry

    Villabolo is Terra Incognita is Alice in Wonderland is Sammielee is....???

  • Berengaria
    Berengaria

    So DaCheech, what do you think about the proposed change in law that is the subject of this thread?

  • darthfader
    darthfader

    Sammie, Berengaria, Terra Incognito,

    What do you think will happen if all companies had to $12 to $15 per hour for all their labor?

    Will Prices Increase?

    Will Companies employ fewer people?

    Or Fill in the blank: _________

    cheers

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