mindseye nailed their motives exactly!!
June 15th WT ( again ) WT Society Bashes College & Earning a Living
by flipper 38 Replies latest jw friends
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LongHairGal
HI FLIPPER:
So, there is yet again another article on this worn-out topic that makes this religion so undesirable. The fact that they are running this anti-college anti-career subject into the ground means they are very threatened. Young people (and adults) must be leaving in droves and it must be happening in a very short period of time to make the religion feel panic. People leaving over a five year period isn't the same as that same number leaving over a one to two year period, and I suspect that this is what is happening.
The religion has absolutely no regard and doesn't care if its members can even put food on the table, let alone plan for the future or retirement. The only way I can see that the religion (or certain people in it) can benefit from a large percentage of its people being functionally literate and unemployable: (1) possibly certain influential brothers with businesses can get destitute and desperate JWs to work for them for chump change, and/or (2) the religion will have its wish of a dumbed-down following that is too ignorant to question anything and are too poor to afford an internet connection that might open their eyes to the wide world out there.
Anybody still left in this religion who is barely hanging on to their job will have to run from all the needy people looking for money. If they haven't been targeted yet, they will be. Glad I am out of there.
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minimus
They are embarrassing.
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sir82
Hmmm....I wonder why I've never seen this chart in a Watchtower magazine?
One of the mysteries of the universe!
You can view the original article here [pdf]
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Finally-Free
Don't forget, the new system™ is just around the corner, just as it was 35 years ago when I first encountered the JWs. Any learning should be done with the paradise™ in mind. In paradise™ people won't be doing anything beyond digging in the dirt, eating watermelons, and petting lions so no further education is necessary.
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Flipper
Great thread as usual!
How many times can the WTS bash college and earning a decent wage?
How will the WTS help my 3 cousins and brother (who are in their middle 50's who have lost their jobs in the last year) find a job? Who's going to hire 52-58 year olds who have no college degree? What new wage can they expect to make with no college degree?
My wife and I took out a home equity loan 4 years ago to pay for our kids college education. They both find jobs paying around $36,000 in a matter of a month from graduation. If they didn't go to college,they would of been staying at their old jobs working 20-24 hours per week at $10.00 per hour.
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therevealer
Grzegorz, the computer programmer, made some changes in his life. He said:
"Taking seriously the advice of the elders,. I realized that I did need to further my
secular education. That would open up opportunities at Bethell in the IT department."
Grzegorz got more involved in congregation activities so as to qualify to be accepted
To Bethell . In time, he graduated from what he saw as his greatest opportunity of
Service to Jehovah. He is now serving faithfully at Bethell under his actual name of Johnny.
Yes, he 'bought out the time' to further both his divine AND his secular education.-Eph. 5:16
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Magwitch
" Becoming absorbed in a secular job can rob a Christian of the energy needed to maintain his own spiritual balance and to assist his family. If a Christian is overly involved in a secular career, he can end up having prolonged, severe stress. Such a person can even become enslaved to a career to the extent of experiencing burnout. More important, would he have enough physical and emotional strength left to carry out his duties in the family and to engage in spiritual activities ?"
This has a similar ring to what happened to my ex.... I have to say the society almost got it right this time...
Dave became so absorbed in the congregation that he used every ounce of energy serving the cong. He lost all balance of life and was unable to assist his family in anything other than a ride to the KH 3 times a week. He was under incredible stress and was a total slave to the Sunset Park congregation and their body of elders. Even though he was running ragged from burnout, the congregation continued to pile on him more than he could physically and emotionally keep up with. He totally fogot he had a family which resulted in the wife and girls leaving him and disowning him as a father and a husband. He ended up in the hospital having an emotional breakdown.
What a stupid group of men writing this bullshit and destroying families with it!
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Pika_Chu
Sorry for the redundancy of this being the 3rd article out of this magazine I've made a thread on- but I felt it was important to share these quotes from the aricle titled
Hey, I don't blame you, Mr. Flipper. This was one of the craziest issues in a long time!
I think it's awful weird how they bash getting a good job and education because of the fact that people who have these things don't need to work as hard as people on lower incomes. Think about it, why would anyone think about working a very busy job, day and night, constantly on their toes? It's usually people who are POOR who have to work their butts off just to survive. It's really astounding with all the "examples" of people in the magazines who were dirt poor and then sacrificed the only job they had (which sucked anyway), took risks by missing work to go to conventions, sold their livestock, homes, assets, all kinds of sh*t, and gave all the money to the WT! Hey, maybe the reason people work so many hours is because they simply do not get paid as much by the hour as people with better jobs. Simple. I find it hard to believe that a computer programmer would have to work that often, especially when most work at home anyway, and the average salary is $80,000-$90,000. You don't have to work as many hours if you have a good paying job IN THE FIRST PLACE.
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ambersun
Here we go again, the next generation being made to feel selfish for wanting to use the brain they have on their shoulders. Once again, they are being encouraged to waste their lives as window washers or cleaning ladies, in fact anything that does not involve thinking too hard so all their mental faculties can be saved for studying the WT literature, with no danger of outside influences getting in the way of their indoctrination.
It is all so depressing, isn't it.