WT Is Losing Its Best and Brightest

by snowbird 43 Replies latest jw friends

  • Pig
    Pig

    well i wasnt intelligent

    but i was told i'd make a elder one day if i started setting goals. Simply because i was the least retarded young male in my cong.

    Plus i was encouraging. Not spiritually but with the other young kids in the meeting. I made them feel that's it was ok if you find meetings mind numbingly boring, you cant just draw funny pictures of the speaker. Not that I was an apostate. Just that I'd take the piss out of everyone and everything. It's how to survive in the JW's.

    It's so hard for kids in the society. Anyone interesting or with any personality ends up leaving.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    They've still got Djeggnog - he's a genius ya know!

  • streets76
    streets76

    We had a pseudo-intellectual in our congregation back in the day. Everyone would swoon whenever he quoted some Greek words. "Oh, Brother Pseudo is sooo smart, just go ask Brother Pseudo."

  • pirata
    pirata

    I don't think they really care about having the "best and the brightest", unfortunately.

    Carl Olof Jonsson's thorough research into the Gentile Times was not well received.

    I remember hearing/seeing somewhere that to serve at Bethel: It's not the most capable, it's the most willing to serve, that are chosen.

    "Independent thinking", alternate takes on the scriptures, even when solidly based on the scriptures, are labelled apostate.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    Now there seems to be increased pressure from Brooklyn to simply stick to the script.

    When they reduced the public talk length from 45 to 30 minutes they didn't shorten the existing outlines, AND the new outlines weren't a whole lot shorter, either. You can't cut out Borg info so you have to cut out your own.

  • pirata
    pirata
    When they reduced the public talk length from 45 to 30 minutes they didn't shorten the existing outlines, AND the new outlines weren't a whole lot shorter, either. You can't cut out Borg info so you have to cut out your own.

    Not necessarily, fortunately. I heard a public talk recently that was actually very interesting. The brother had basically focused on one section of the outline, and developed it very thoroughly. This was a refreshing change from the not-to-uncommon marathon sprint to try and mention most points in the outline. I personally take advantage of the new 30 min time limit to slash out the more repetitive material and develop the material that I hope the audience will find interesting.

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Ah, with their anti-college-education attitudes, I always thought that they repelled the "best and brightest" before they ever got in the Kingdom Hall door....

    So....

    That means that, when they further leak their version of the "best and brightest", what's left will be at a very VERY low intellectual level, indeed...

    Must explain their ever-increasing levels of fear and paranoia...

    Zid

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    The reasons they are going to schism (not die or disappear) is simple. If you think of it in terms of MONEY or MEMBERS, you simply miss the point.

    Christian Science has been around for over 100 years and they still seem to have a good amount of money, but who even knows about them? It is only supported by old people with money to support such stupidity. They need a place to put their butts, feel comfortable in their fantasy, and call it "my religion right or wrong." Does that make them powerful? Do your children have to worry about becoming a Christian Scientist??

    NO. IT'S NOT "IN", so it cannot attract youthful members, so when the old people die off, so does the money and ignorant theologies. It would have to become a different religion altogether, with virtually no resemblance to the former. The Watch Tower simply has NOTHING TO OFFER the primal being except “FRIENDS” that will rat on you in a New York minute.

    There is no welfare system, with the Watch Tower OR Jehovah; and salvation is completely dependent on your loyalty to their demands.

    They currently have no realistic program to make money now that the digital age has arrived and magazines are a waste. The programs they have could be audited by the IRS and they could get in big trouble, should the IRS choose to investigate their religion (or ALL religions) carefully.

    There are no charismatic leaders, nor does there appear to be a charismatic leader on the way. They tolerate no youthful, inspiring leaders; younger people drift off rapidly and never come back. The Watch Tower, after 130 years of lies, deception and mind control is truly embarrassing in the 21st century. Going door-to-door peddling children’s-level literature is truly an embarrassment to most. For decades, the Watch Tower has gotten very few converts from going door-to-door; it’s all friends, co-workers and their own children, who go out the back door as fast as they get old enough to leave home.

    They are carefully inoculating the masses in every Watchtower about any false message coming from some of the new ones claiming to be of the “anointed.” Even the “overlapping generation” explanation of why the date 1914 failed is being rejected by many Witnesses now. Many are actually quite angry at this new deceptive explanation.

    Their messages are an insult to almost everyone's intelligence and ability to think for themselves. The hypnotic repetition of reading paragraphs and underlining the “correct” answers in the magazines and books is a modern-day farce.

    The current Governing Body is VERY concerned about the power of the Internet and especially Facebook, which most people will continue to use regardless of what the Watchtower says. It is like telling people they can’t use telephones!

    College will continue to be disdained which makes them an obvious laughing stock.

    Randy

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    Not necessarily, fortunately. I heard a public talk recently that was actually very interesting. The brother had basically focused on one section of the outline, and developed it very thoroughly. This was a refreshing change from the not-to-uncommon marathon sprint to try and mention most points in the outline. I personally take advantage of the new 30 min time limit to slash out the more repetitive material and develop the material that I hope the audience will find interesting.

    Yeah, but you're an apostate (the guy you heard recently is probably a relatively free thinker - he'll be on JWN in a year or two, lol). If you were doing what you are supposed to do you wouldn't add any of your own research and you'd stick to the outline. There's even supposed to be an elder in every congregation that monitors talks to make sure they do stick to the outline, but usually they're too lazy to do it.

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    Tee hee hee.

    Syl

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