Not sure if your "hmmmm" means the post should die a natural death... or you perceive me as a represenation of JWs and so pity me, dear Jay88 (peace to you, dear one!), which may be true as to the former, but certainly not as to the latter, on either grounds... but:
I reengage your posts because you preach, more so than anyone else on here and when you do so you are so condescending that I feel a need to remind you that most on here know intimately how religion works.
Then (1) you should have no problem with what I am sharing, dear Q (again, peace to you!), and (2) most here would not be involved in religion any more. Unfortunately, neither appear to be true.
You do exactly what every religion does and put forward a magic worldview that is unsupportable by hard physical evidence. Not only that but you then have a pop at those very religions you ape.
I can see how you might "see" it that way. I must ask, though, do you have the same "problem," with, say, the WTBTS GB? How about the Pope? Dalai Lama? Pat Robertson? Billy Graham? Creflo Dollar? Joel Osteen? The LDS? If so, where are your indictments of them? I mean, they literally have followers, depictable and countable. And some of them do claim that "God told [them]" such and such (usually with regard to some amount of money, some world miracle, or some future prophesy). You've heard none of these from me, however. Yet, for some reason, you consider me a threat. Like perhaps I'm the next, oh, what's her name... Seventh Day Adventist lady... or perhaps Mother Theresa. SURELY you don't consider me in the league of either (I am certainly not in the league of the latter - my "love" hasn't reached that level... yet... though I pray it does, one day).
Look, Q - some of you need to make up your minds: I have been accused of both having followers and misleading/attempt to mislead others... as well as having no followers and not misleading "anyone" (i.e., "NO ONE is listening to YOU, SA!"). Thus, far, in this thread 3 or 4 (maybe 5) people have openly agreed with me/what I've shared, to some degree. In the entire forum, maybe... I dunno, what, 10-15 over the years? Close to 11 years? WHERE, pray tell, is this CULT... this "mass" of followers who can't think for themselves... or testify as to their OWN spiritual experience and so must rely on me and mine? Where, please tell me, is the THREAT that you are SO fearful of??
You respond in a deluge to fragments of sentences but never respond to the entire context of a post,
ME? "Never respond to the entire context of a post?" Okay, now I KNOW you're smoking "magic bananas". Because I am one of the [very] few people who respond TO the ENTIRE context of virtually EVERY post I comment on. Bump by bump... line by line... statement by statement... question by question... accusation... by accusation.
you merely try and batter your argument through with deliberate misrepresentation and a line by line rebuttal of the argument you want to answer ( but is rarely what has been contextually stated .)
Sigh. If, at ANY time, I have NOT responded to what YOU (or someone else) ASKED... ADDRESSED... COMMENTED... or ACCUSED... as to ME... please... PLEASE... show me where that is. In such a case I can only respond that I didn't see it, truly, but if you will bring it to my attention I WILL respond. Absolutely. Surely, you know that about me. Certainly, most who read my posts/comments do.
I don't hate made up gods so I'm not fussed if the one in your head will not let me understand you
I think you might want to think about just who is it you are trying to convince of that, dear one...
but to be honest your arguments are predicated on immaterial myths so they don't really resonate as worthy of serious consideration.
Then, WHY... PRAY tell... do YOU still CONSIDER them??? Why do you not give me the same... ummmm... disregard... as you give others? You think me crazy? Delusional? Subject to spreading myths as truth? Certainly you don't think I'm the only one here doing that. Yet, your issue appears to be only with me. Why is that, dear Q?
Should you provide some proof ( on this forum before you pull the give me a call routine ) then I'll happily engage your posts
Apparently, that isn't really required, is it? I mean, here you are... once again... engaging my posts... (yet, some call ME "crazy"...)
on that level
But in the meantime, you'll engage, what, just "because"?
because facts and evidence gives us a shared platform,
In other words, IF I present facts/evidence acceptable to YOU... you will "condescend" to engage on the "level" of such "facts/evidence", but if I present that which I believe to be facts/evidence but you REFUSE to consider (which refusal "we" have posted on ad nauseum )... because some have turned out to be lies at the hands of OTHERS... then your position is that you are free not only to refuse to "engage" me on... let's say, a more "civil" level... but to literally slander and speak somewhat abusively of and to me. That about it?
Dear one, if you summarily reject facts and evidence... because YOU don't believe them to BE facts and evidence and so won't bother to even entertain them... we're never gonna get to the "level" YOU [think you] need to get.
otherwise you're just posting crazy stories that are no different from those I get at any church.
Yet, you read them, consider them, entertain them, let them get under your skin (and, perhaps, also in your mind and heart)... and then engage me in more of them. Do you do that with your church, as well? If so, then what I say should mean nothing to you: if [your] God is for you, who can be against you? Certainly not me. If not, why not? What are you getting "here"... that you're not getting "there", so that you even need to READ my posts?
Your approach is one of the very things I hate about the idea of god,
Then, please... PLEASE... PLEASE ... exercise some personal self-control... and stop reading my posts. IGNORE them... as you wish others to do! By all means! I will NOT take offense, not at all.
that it gives you the confidence to talk down to people who make the effort to learn real, physical reality and to be humbled and awed by it.
Whoa! Wait a second... who's "talking down" to WHO, here? Is it not the one whose "effort" is as to the "real, physical reality", who is "humbled and awed by it,"... to the one who believes there is ALSO a spiritual reality... who is humbled and awed by IT... as WELL as by the physical "reality"?? I accept the reality you speak of... and RESPECT it, as well, so that I do MY best to care for it... and those who belong TO it. Man AND beast (well, except for dinner - sorry, dear WS - LOL!). You totally and absolutely reject the one I speak of and attempt to slander, ridicule, and speak abusively to, of, and at me... at every opportunity. (Ummmm... anyone here got a mirror dear Q can hold for a couple few secs? Please, hand it to him...).
The sheer audacity to try and school intelligent people to your invisible worldview and then act all offended when they call it the evidence less flim flam that it currently is stuns me to post thus.
Wait. What "people"? Who specifically are you speaking of? I'm looking back and, thus far, all I can see is (1) ones who've asking me questions; or (2) ones who agree, to some extent or another, with what I've shared. What people... ohhhhhh... you mean YOU. You mean how dare I even respond to YOUR (obviously "intelligent") comments to ME... when I should KNOW better and have the SENSE to bow down to YOUR great intelligence because "everyone" knows what YOU know... and so who am I to come off with all of this "stuff" you (and some others) have NEVER heard before... worm that I am?
Yes, well, I am a worm, after all, dear one... and so, perhaps I just don't know any better. In which case, you, in all of YOUR great intelligence, should be the more... ummmm... accommodating, even tolerant, yes... you know, like you believe God "should be"... and condescend from your very lofty intellectual "height" and forgive me for MY utter stupidity in even deigning to engage you BACK... worm that I am!... seeing as a worm has NO grounds to even THINK it is on the same level as such superior intellect.
Well, since you can't come down to MY "level", I will come "up" to yours... and say that I repent, in sackcloth and ashes... for even THINKING I could carry on a discussion in YOUR realm [of intelligence]. Shoot, what the heck was I thinking?? Oh, yeah, that's right: worms don't think. So, again, I should be excused by you.
Peace, dear Q, truly. In your "great" mind... and, if ever possible, your spirit.
YOUR servant ('cause a worm is certainly lower than and thus servant to all, yes?), and a slave of Christ,
SA, The Worm... who doesn't deny it...
