LeavingWT's DA letter (page 4)

lrkr

"Worst thing you can do to your body"

Well I suppose cutting into the body to adjust organs might be worse- or surgery as we call it.

Chemotherapy I hear is quite hard on the body.

Setting a bone hurts like hell.

Lots of the things medical doctors do to us are not pleasant at the time and can be "hard on the body" but that doesnt mean they shouldnt be done. Blood transfusions have proven to be life saving. So much so that there is a global industry built around the harvesting and preservation of blood. Hospitals keep stores of blood like they keep stores of scalpels, antibiotics and bandaids. Blood is a vital part of our modern, medical apparatus and it works. Will there be a better alternative in the future? Possibly. As former and current JW's its only our cult training that makes us think longer about blood than about x-rays or MRIs or beta-blockers or any other form of modern medical treatment.

Mad Sweeney

If taking blood is the worst thing one can do to defile a body, that would make it worse than smoking, no? Why then is smoking a disfellowshipping offense but taking blood is not? Explain that, true believers.

therevealer

bft123 - It is not god who is testing you but the governing body. Make this edit change and I can agree with you.

bft123

Who says taking blood is not a disfellowing offence,oh yes it is. The point I am trying to make is that the taking of blood is going strictly against almighty Gods law, not mans. Do you care nothing about breaking Gods laws, "He that disobeys the son will not see life but the anger of God remains upon him." disobeying God means a lack of faith in Jesus {you dont believe in him,}. I have personally known people who inject alchole into their body, just as I personally know people who pretend to be witnessess, so that they dont have to take blood, or dont want to go to war, or when they are in Jail, and dont want to be raped by their inmates, who respect jehovahs witnessess, and will not bother them, you can believe this or not, I really dont care. but what I do care about is misleading people, and turning them away from serving God by disobeying him. I made a vow a long time ago to God to help people come to know him and his laws. but I only have to warn you, we dont force anyone to do anything, Jesus said that "If they dont listen to you they wont listen to me either," and to wipe the dust off the bottom of our feet in front of their door. then he would deal with you himself.

Balaamsass

LeavingWT,

Wow. Very well researched and written letter. Thanks EVERYONE for bringing this letter to our attention.

It is tragic that some of these points were brought up at Bethel in the 70s, (the Kosher view) by some GB members, and Gilead instructors and voted down. As a result more died. Their bloodguilt is huge.

ScenicViewer

@bft123 who said,

-- I have personally known people who inject alchole into their body,

-- I personally know people who pretend to be witnessess, so that they dont have to take blood,

-- or dont want to go to war,

-- or when they are in Jail, and dont want to be raped by their inmates, who respect jehovahs witnessess, and will not bother them

Do you really know people who have done all of these things? I have been associated with the Watchtower since 1969, and I don't know even one person like you describe. I'm not saying you don't know them, just that to know even one person like this is unlikely, but to know so many people like this would be amazing.

sizemik

Jesus said that "If they dont listen to you they wont listen to me either," . . . bft123

Jesus also said this . . .

He said: "Look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, 'I am he.' and, 'The due time has approached.' Do not go after them. Luke 21;8 (NWT)

I'm here to tell you that you must get out of this cult right now and obey Jesus' words above. If you do not listen, you cannot say you haven't been warned. As for me, I will reluctantly shake the dust off my feet and set about warning others similarly estranged from the Christ by fundamentalist cults and false religion in general.

I'm telling you now by way of a reminder . . . "Get out of her, [my people], if you do not want to share with her in her sins ... " Rev 18;4.

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bft123 . . . Have you checked out this site thoroughly? Do you know who your "audience" is here? . . . I wonder.

The people here have heard your re-packaged lies for decades . . . some of us have even used the same old bullshit ourselves, back when we could lie as well as you . . . you know, when we were JW's too.

Your bullshit is just echoes of the ugly past . . . nothing more.

bft123

Sizemilk you can fool these people here, that you were once a witness, but I know better, you have never been a JW, I can tell because of your filthy language, anyone reading the bible knows the scriptures that tell you to leave abusive speech, along with bad conduct alone . I dont know what you are now, but you have never been a child of God, He teaches love thy neighbor, That is the law in the bible. Jesus said it was the only law, that the whole bible is based on. other than to love God, you are so full of hatred, I can feel it. However, as Jehovah told Samuel, who was upset with the people, "It is not you Samuel, that they dont want as prophet, It is me they dont want as their God." likewise with the witnesses, it is not us you hate but almighty God, you dont want telling you what to do. I wipe my feet.

JAFO

@bft123 who said,

-- I have personally known people who inject alchole into their body,

-- I personally know people who pretend to be witnessess, so that they dont have to take blood,

-- or dont want to go to war,

-- or when they are in Jail, and dont want to be raped by their inmates, who respect jehovahs witnessess, and will not bother them

Bullshit meter

bft123 said:

I wipe my feet.

Thank fuck for that.. (and yes, despite my 'filthy language', I once was a baptised JW)

iCeltic

Superbly written letter.

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