Atheism 2.0

by Qcmbr 384 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    LOL. Thanks EP. I don't even think I can follow half this thread! How irritating. So what I post may whirl past the topic, but that never stopped me before.

    The idea that atheists consider believers their enemy, is for the most part, just silly. This is a forum. We share our ideas here. We state them strongly and without apology, and often without our usual tact. I do not consider religious people my enemy---although I have been on the receiving end of a great deal of hostility, not all believers are hostile toward me.

    In my real life, I hold back these opinions quite often. Not out of fear or insecurity, but just out of consideration. I have a friend that lives far away from me. She has no social network at all, but is a Christian. I have done a great deal to help her find a church and find some peace. While she knows I don't believe in the bible, she still appreciates that I can't point her to scriptures and ideas that bring HER peace. I want her to make friends at Church, because I know that this is the context that is most effective for her.

    Would I like to free her of the guilt, weight, and fear that her belief piles on her? Yes I would. But she believes---therefore I can only help her find ways in her own worldview to deal with them.

    This is not enemy behavior.

    NC

  • tec
    tec

    So where did he call you a liar? It's not that hard, either he did or he didn't.

    First post on the last page.

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    He said he was evaluating, said didn't have time to play catch a liar by the tail and then winked. That was in response to several posts that contradicted each other.

    Was he wrong? Was the wink wrong?

  • tec
    tec

    Sounded like he was saying she was being intellectually dishonest... if he isn't calling her that, and does not think she is a liar, a simple word to the effect that 'you misunderstood; I don't think these things' would clear it up.

    Peace,

    Tammy

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    The moral of the story here is no one should be so presumptuousness to lie in trying to support their beliefs.

    It is disingenuous and disrespectfully arrogant to the listener to whom you speak/preach.

    ( A spirit told me )

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    Intellectually dishonest and an outright liar are different things.

    For instance, I frequently catch and out Sabastious in misrepresenting science. I don't think he is lying, per se, just being either intentionally or not intellectually dishonest. There is a difference.

  • tec
    tec

    Um, yeah, see the post above yours, EP, lol...

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    Give it rest please.

    The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him--the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD-- Isaiah 11:2

    I did not go to heaven for the spirit of understanding so obviously it came to me.

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    It is the spirit that can live in the past, present and future simultaneously. The Holy Spirit can do that. N.drew

    Really where do you did acquire this bit of information ?

    Have you ever contacted a spirit and asked it ?

    Did the writings of a mortal human being tell you this ?

    If time doesn't exist for all spirits or god why did it take god the days of creation ? thetrueone

    I did not contact a spirit and ask it. I spirit contacted me and told me. N.drew

    I think it is obvious I was responding "in kind". And it's true, but Mr. True insists on imagining a person spirit. It was not a person spirit and I did not say that it was.

    The last question is a good one thetrueone. I'm not going to get in trouble again by trying to answer it. Maybe some else someday will give it a go.

  • Knowsnothing
    Knowsnothing

    So I ask again, regardless of how ludicrous and unbelievable a belief is, can we not find a common ground? Can't we work together?

    Ultimately what harm is a belief that is only belief?

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