Why Are These Islamists So Touchy?

by minimus 72 Replies latest jw friends

  • tec
    tec

    Bubblegum - I'm not denying the headlines you quoted; but I do want to point out that not too long ago one thing that got small coverage (go figure) was when a muslim group banded arms and circled a christian group praying, to protect them from e x tremists. Or to die with them if it came to that.

    Even if it were deliberate, to kill for the burning of a book of doubtful provenance is never justified.

    If it was a mistake, it was a mistake. It happens. But on those cases where it is done on purpose, it is a deliberate show of disrespect. A slap or spit in the face when tensions are already at the boiling point. The person delivering the slap should know better, and can't stand back all innocent eyed.

    Peace,

    Tammy

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    If it was a mistake, it was a mistake. It happens. But on those cases where it is done on purpose, it is a deliberate show of disrespect. A slap or spit in the face when tensions are already at the boiling point. The person delivering the slap should know better, and can't stand back all innocent eyed.

    I'm intolerant of even the "mistake" excuse. Setting: You are the U.S. military in a Muslim country that has been lawless for quite some time, and you are fighting the Taliban. You are very cognizant of the low education level of the inhabitants, and their tendency to emotionally react to everything termed religious.

    You have these Qurans that you want to dispose of. What do you do? Put them in a container, ship them out, and dispose of them elsewhere? OR, BURN THEM? Really, is the U.S. military THAT stupid?

    Edit: A historical note. The reason we are fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan is because, as the world's oil whore, the U.S. allowed the Saudis to export their extreme Wahabbism to Afghanistan. Keep in mind, we are the ones that funded, armed, and trained Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan because we didn't give a damn what he did as long as it was against the Russians. I attend law school with two Afghani lawyers. My school has the U.S. State Department contract to try to rebuild their judicial system. One of the reasons we received the contract was because Washington state has such a good working relationship with the Indian tribes. So, the Afghani lawyers have been traveling to the tribal meetings with hopes that they can implement a similar program in Afghanistan to try to blend the uneducated tribal factions with the few remaining educated in the country. They want their country to be like it was back in the 50s. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/05/27/once_upon_a_time_in_afghanistan?page=full

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Tammy, in my book a slap or spit in the face is no reason to murder either, even if it makes you feel like it.

    Justitia, thanks for the link, it is easy to forget, or be ignorant of, what Afghanistan used to be like, such a short time ago really.

    I too am deeply suspicious of the "accident" claim, I was just giving the benefit ofthe doubt, whoever did it, if they were not aware of the nature of the material because of not having the language, they should have checked, they may have been destroying vital intelligence.

    It smells bad.

  • Kojack57
    Kojack57

    Muslims equal terrorism If your Muslim you will eventually become radical guaranteed.

  • Kojack57
  • watson
    watson

    The "Christian West" just control their wackos better.

  • blondie
    blondie

    I work with Muslims and they are not a single block of thought or action any more than ex-jws are.

    Islam is not an entirely unified religion, presenting a single, monolithic face to the world. Islam does not have as many sects and divisions as does Christianity, but there are a few and it is worth knowing something about them. The two biggest are the Sunnis and the Shi'ites, with the Sunnis being the largest of all and representing the vast majority of Muslims.

    There are Shiites, Sunnis, Sufis, and

    • Ahmadiyya is an Messianic movement founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad that began in India in the late 19th century and is practiced by millions of people around the world. [180]
    • The Ibadi is a sect that dates back to the early days of Islam and is a branch of kharijite . Unlike most Kharijite groups, Ibadism does not regard sinful Muslims as unbelievers.
    • The Quranists are Muslims who generally reject the Hadith .
    • Yazdânism is seen as a blend of local Kurdish beliefs and Islamic Sufi doctrine introduced to Kurdistan by Sheikh Adi ibn Musafir in the 12th century.
    • Nation of Islam is a mainly African-American new religious movement founded in Detroit. Islam is not an entirely unified religion, presenting a single, monolithic face to the world. Islam does not have as many sects and divisions as does Christianity, but there are a few and it is worth knowing something about them. The two biggest are the Sunnis and the Shi'ites, with the Sunnis being the largest of all and representing the vast majority of Muslims.

      Wahhabism and Wahhabi Muslims

      Origins of Islamic Extremism - Wahhabism is a strict sect that developed in Saudi Arabia. Learn more about its history, its founder Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, and it’s influence today in Islam and among Muslims.

      Islamic Groups and Muslims: Ismaili Islam

      Ismaili Islam: In the eighth century, a dispute arose over who should lead the Shia community after the death of the Sixth Imam, Jaafar ibn Muhammad (also known as Jaafar al Sadiq). Those who followed the teaching of Musa al Kazim became the main body of Shi'ites, while those who followed the teachings of Musa's brother, Ismail, were called Ismailis.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Islamic_sects

    But then

    William Tyndale completed a translation of the New Testament from the Greek in 1525, which church authorities in England tried their best to confiscate and burn. After issuing a revised edition in 1535, he was arrested, spent over a year in jail, and was then strangled and burned at the stake near Brussels in October 6th, 1536. It is estimated today that some 90 percent of the New Testament in the 1611 King James Bible is the work of Tyndale. Tyndale was unable to complete his translation of the Old Testament before his death.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    There is no outrage when Christians are killed in Nigeria or Egypt.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Does that means that all Muslims think the same then???? Just like ex-jws do on JWN (of course not, recent threads prove that ex-jws don/t think in a united block)

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    And just which group will this violence benefit? The Army/Military Government.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmUuxymOimk

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