It makes no sense whatsoever that a" CREATOR" would only communicate with a minority of the population then put the onus on them to convey this life saving message to the WHOLE wide world

by smiddy 182 Replies latest jw experiences

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  N.drew

  Know God is Love and be Joyful. That is what I believe the communication IS.

  Then it gets complicated. Love whom? And be joyful about what exactly?

  So people KNOW the message but choose to ignore it or put it in second place to their own desire.

  I'm thinking of the illustration of the vineyard that was let out to the cultivators. They knew the produce was not theirs. (Let us kill the heir they agreed among themselves so the vineyard will be ours.) But they do not know what to do with the grapes of the vine except to misuse them. What does wine signify? Happy contentment perhaps? So then who is keeping happy contentment away from people? The selfish cultivators are. Is the vineyard real? I think so. Are the cultivators real? I guess so. Is there anyone who knows how to distribute the product of the vineyard? I believe so.
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  N.drew

  So, what do you say?

  Yes, the message must be clear. For me the message is very clear.

  I can not make my children obey me. Some parents try, don't they?
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  tec

  I answered you, Yan. What else are you looking for?
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  tec

  The one I rescinded had nothing to do with your post or my answer. It had to do with disciplining my children... but that was a misread from what you said about 'all'. My post above that one is my answer to your questions.

  Peace,

  Tammy
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  Yan Bibiyan

  Yes, the message must be clear. For me the message is very clear.

  Hold on. Not so fast.

  It is clear for you, and it is not even heard by 5 people for each one who heard it.

  If some of your children are in front of you when you whisper the directions and hear you loud and clear, but MOST of your children are in the other room, listening to the loud radio, unaware that you were giving life-saving directions, is what you have done responsible parenting?

  Is it the kids in the loud room fault that they didn't hear and you didn't make sure they heard?

  Actually, you knew very well they didn't hear, yet you did nothing to make sure they did.

  We are talking life and death here, not a call for dinner...

  P.S. Please keep in mind the topic of the thread.
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  N.drew

  P.S. Please keep in mind the topic of the thread.

  I believe we all know the message. Love one another. I think even animals know it. My animals love me even more than most people do. So are you still believing that God will punish them who have not heard? I do not believe that.
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  Yan Bibiyan

  I answered you, Yan. What else are you looking for?

  Tammy, you are sidestepping the question. Bear in mind the topic of the thread.

  Let me spell it then: You MAKE SURE your kids hear what you have to say if it pertains to their safety or their life. You don't whisper, you don't hope they hear, you don't communicate it to SOME OF THEM by telling them in person in your very strict parenal voice, and to MOST OF THE OTHERS by leaving conflicting clues here and there in the words of many 3rd parties over centuries.

  By saying you, I am actually asking what a responsible sensible parent would do (because I have no doubt you are such )
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  ProdigalSon

  I think "myths" is a highly misunderstood word. In ancient times, truth was communicated through myths. No one ever thought to try to understand them literally.

  And we think we have evolved?
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  Yan Bibiyan

  I believe we all know the message. Love one another.

  No, we don't. 7 million believe that you have to turn in monthly preaching reports to avoid death. Yet, loving father does not step in to fix the error...
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  N.drew

  That is the problem dear Yan. They believe they are loving the "faithful discrete slave" and then because of what stupid Jesus said, they believe by doing so they are on their way to everlasting life where Jah rules for peace and love. It's a big problem*. (No, I don't believe The Son of God is stupid, I'm kidding).

  *What will we do?