Red meat: What Makes It Unhealthy?

by Bangalore 69 Replies latest jw friends

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep
    It's more than obvious, and well proven, that the human body is very similar to that of a monkey, and has a digestive system almost identical.

    I have seen similar statements before .... from people who thought they could get their B12 from the health food shop.

    According to Jane Goodall, who actually had the time to watch chimps, they manage to catch bushbucks, bushpigs, baboons, red colobus monkeys, redtail monkeys & blue monkeys. That's hardly a vegetarian diet in my books.

  • biometrics
    biometrics

    @Black Sheep

    Who's suggesting a vegan diet?

    Vitamin B-12 is manufactured by friendly bacteria in the intestinal tract. This is true for all vegetarian animals, including human beings. I've known a few people deficient in B12, they(my brother, father-in-law, and a good friend) were all big meat eaters.

    A deficiency of Vitamin B-12, which is a forerunner of pernicious anemia, is not necessarily due to dietary inadequacy. A report released from a Vitamin B-12 Conference stated, "Pernicious anemia appears to arise not from shortage in the diet, but from impairment of the ability to absorb Vitamin B-12." (Proceedings of the Nutrition Society, 71st Scientific Meeting, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, January 5, 1952, p. 295)

  • GOrwell
    GOrwell

    I eat at least 2 LB's of bacon a week, and am losing weight. Thanks be to the Lord for low-carb!

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    LOL Gorwell....really? 2 LB's...I havent heard of that diet. Sounds tasty though

  • talesin
    talesin

    Sounds like ketosis to me ....

    t

  • NOLAW
    NOLAW

    Here are teh facts and not the crap of veg. sources:

    http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/674/are-humans-meat-eaters-or-vegetarians-by-nature:

    ...

    Like the hard-core carnivores, we have fairly simple digestive systems well suited to the consumption of animal protein, which breaks down quickly. Contrary to what your magazine article says, the human small intestine, at 23 feet, is a little under eight times body length (assuming a mouth-to-anus "body length" of three feet). This is about midway between cats (three times body length), dogs (3-1/2 times), and other well-known meat eaters on the one hand and plant eaters such as cattle (20 to 1) and horses (12 to 1) on the other. This tends to support the idea that we are omnivores.

    Herbivores also have a variety of specialized digestive organs capable of breaking down cellulose, ...

    ...

    Please study a health science before you post about such themes.

    NOLAW

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Well, I wasn't going to mention it, but Atkins is the easiest way for me to lose weight. I wouldn't recommend 2 pounds of bacon, though. Way too much sodium.

    Once I cut out the carbs and increase the protein, my appetite drops dramatically. I don't often have to resort to the full-scale Atkins and it's not that I'm really heavy. However, I've found that if I cut out protein, I feel like I'm starving and crave sugar from 6pm until I fall asleep. That's the way I'm made. I come from a long lineage of carnivero-omnivores

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep
    Who's suggesting a vegan diet?

    Not me, that's for sure. I'm a vegan apostate. LOL

    Vitamin B-12 is manufactured by friendly bacteria in the intestinal tract. This is true for all vegetarian animals, including human beings.

    This occurs after the ileum, where B12 is absorbed.

    Do you know what you have to do to obtain the B12 produced in your own intestinal tract?

  • Razziel
    Razziel

    Ketosis was the best kept secret (for non-diabetics and those with without major health problems) until it became the fad of the year. I had a lot of success with it, especially getting past plateau's.

  • talesin
    talesin

    Razzi, the Atkins diet has been around for quite some time. I first learned about ketosis when investigating the dangers of that particular diet. I agree with what you say, but really, a healthy diet is one that includes carbs as well as proteins, and is well-rounded.

    My dietary research started in my early 20's, when I found out I was not metabolizing minerals properly. Since then, it has been a lifelong exploration and study of nutrition, and how it works. I'm happy to say that in my 50s, I still have the same size 5 wool worsted suit that I bought when I was 22, and my system works better than ever.

    If it comes from a pig, I love it! mmmmm,,,, bacon! And I don't cook a ham too often, because I tend to have it half-eaten by the time it reaches the fridge. Though I don't eat a *lot* of meat (ie, portions are small), I do have a protein every night before I go to bed; otherwise I wake up sick and hungry.

    Beans and legumes have been a real life-saver; as a type 2 diabetic (who takes no meds), they provide complex carbs and proteins, and help to stabilize the glycemic index. Inability to eat any grains whatsoever has made me a constant eater (protein only satisfies for so long), and of course, fructose is quickly metabolized, so that means my fruit intake (except for avocadoes) is limited. Potatoes, as someone said, are night shades, and also are not good to have too often.

    Oy, the challenges of a special diet! It's all worth it, though, to feel healthier.

    tal

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