Red meat: What Makes It Unhealthy? (page 7)

still thinking

I like the sound of your healthy eating tal.......I need to re focus on my dietry needs again. This was a good thread. Got me thinking about it again.

mP

@billy

Of course we are lucky that the hard work is done by machines and others far away from home.

There is a strong pattern between human rights and the way we treat animals.

Take a look at China and how they treat for example bears, where they milk them for bile etc. That sort of action is outlawed in first world countries. Im not comparing animal and human rights, but the fact is we in first world countries make this sort of activity illegal and it is also true that citizens in our countries have more rights.

While everyone knows that England its empire were the first to the industrial revolution not many realised they were amongst the first to establish and protect and assign rights to animals. The best countries on our planet typically also have institutions similar to the RSPCA, lesser countries just dont give a damn.

The way we treat animals is directly related to how we treat our fellow humans.

mP

Talesin:

Beans and legumes have been a real life-saver; as a type 2 diabetic (who takes no meds), they provide complex carbs and proteins, and help to stabilize the glycemic index.

MP:

The glycemic index is a attribute of food that describes how quickly glucose from it is absorbed into your blood. Low GI food raises your BGL at a slower rate than something with a hi GI such as sugar.

talesin

ST - - thanks for the compliment. Healthy eating has been a long road, and I wish I could have started down it long ago. Also, I wish that physicians didn't overprescribe so many antibiotics, NSAIDs and anti-depressant / psychotropic drugs. My problems stem from overdosing with antibiotics and NSAIDs when I was a child and teen.

Less drugs and more prevention is the watchword for moi. And I've found that experimenting with food can yield some very tasty results!

For example, today I sliced a pork tenderloin into medallions (sooo lean), coated them with ground pepper and a sprinkle of salt, then inserted little bullets of fresh garlic into slits in the 1/2" thick medallions. Slapped them on the Foreman grill, and in five minutes, yummy, tender, juicy peppered pork medallions. YUM!

mP

Actually, in Canada, only pets are protected under the law. You can do anything you want to a wild or farm animal, even torture it,,, and it's not against the law. Perhaps it's different in your country, but unless they are on the endangered species list, animals have ZERO rights in Canada.

Disgusting, but true.

tal

EDIT: Pets, meaning cats, dogs, horses,,, you know, the cute ones!

talesin

Yes, I am aware of that, mP, and thanks. Thus my comment about beans/legumes being a life-saver. :))

mP

Talesin

Actually, in Canada, only pets are protected under the law. You can do anything you want to a wild animal, even torture it,,, and it's not against the law. Perhaps it's different in your country, but unless they are endangered on the endangered species list, wild animals have ZERO rights in Canada.

mP

At least some animals have rights in Canada. In Africa for examples all animals have practically no rights, and its not a wonder humans there have for all practical comparisons no rights as well. My point was that whie not perfect, the more rights some or all animals have the better humans are as well. I would have thought most wild animals in Canada had rights, because here in Australia, wildlife in general have some protection. In practical terms it is difficult to protect the wild because they are alone in the middle of nowhere but at least its a start.

still thinking

mP....I didn't realise you were so close...HI from NZ

And you do have a point about the way humans treat animals and other humans.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

@tal,

On my budget, I use beans a lot to stretch the meat in my diet. It's a cheap, healthy addition to eggs and sausage in my morning scramble, chicken teriyaki stir-fry etc. But I have a question for you. Beans stereotypically cause gas. However, it seems to me that with eating beans every day, the gas subsides to a great extent. I don't take Bean-o or anything, but it seems like my gut has adjusted. Well, I'm still a guy, so I have to fart sometimes, that just goes with the territory. But it's just not as bad as I would have expected.

Oh, and on the subject of healthy eating, do you eat oatmeal?

talesin

Billy,, yes, this is the norm. Those who include beans and cruciferous vegetables in their diet on a regular (if not daily) basis, clean out the colon, and after about 6-8 weeks, the extreme gaseousness ends. (we all fart! and women as much as men lol, learned on Oprah) ....

I can't eat oatmeal (it's a grain, and my stomach can't process the sugars in grains), and it gives me hives as well. I love oatmeal, though! Especially making a well in the centre, some dk brown sugar and milk to make it soupy ...mmmmmm.... boo hoo for me. :(

Fibre for me, comes from a daily spinach salad, the above-mentioned cruciferous veggies (cabbage, cauliflower, broccoli, mostly), and of course, beans!

Oh, and I like to buy Goat parmesan cheese at the Farmer's Market. As a hard cheese, it is low in cholesterol and fat, and a really tasty addition to many meals.

tal

talesin

mP,, yes, I agree with that. Compassion and empathy for our fellow citizens of the world (both human and nonhuman) goes hand in hand.

tal

PS. Greetings down under! One day, I will make that trip to AU and NZ,,,, yes, I will!

Red meat: What Makes It Unhealthy?

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