TO ALL LURKERS: the WTS approves of parents humilating their children! (page 4)

diana netherton

God murdered 42 children for being children. How is that justified ever????

Morbidz: I just don't understand why I should stop posting. about sex. In a few months I'll be 18. If adults don't like it, then why did they comment on them so much anyway? Why do they bring them up on unrelated threads? If it's so bad for me to do it, then why did I get so many enthusiatic responses?

Look, I get that it's technically illegal. You're probably right that it's a bad idea. But if they wanted me to stop, they should have respectfully asked me. Then I would have stopped. Most of them ( those who did not like it) were rude. If anyone is worried about getting into trouble with the law or the mods, then they can nicely ask me to stop. And I will. BP has been rude. Even in this thread, unrelated to sex, she's bullying me. If she and a couple others respect me, I'll respect her request for me to stop. BEsides, I basically stopped posting about sex anyway after they complained. I ONLY MENTION IT BREIFLY NOW.

That is the last I will say about it on this thread. THIS IS ABOUT THE WTS, NOT ME!!!

Thank you NC, for defending this post. :) *hug*

Anyway, I know this isn't a shocking article to us, but it will be for some lurkers. Some of them likely don't read these older articles. Seein the whole article and getting the reference after pointing out one of the worst parts might help. I hope so. That's all I care about, is helping others.

Now, I want everyone's personal opinion: Should I keep posting about older articles that degrade women, children, and sometimes people in general? Or have enough people done that? Would my doing this just be redundant?

Bubblegum Apotheosis

Actually the WTS has been fair on this issue, qouting St Paul's words regarding child discipline. Never in my fifty years has the WTS encouraged anyone to humiliate their children in front of others. We will distract from the relevant issues, if we attack the W.T.S. with hyperbole or other nonsense! Lurkers are scared enough viewing these pages, looking for answers to their doubts, "lurkers" know Momma Org does not approve of hurting children, it's obtuse men and women who abuse their kids, or allow it to happen.

Examples would be "not divulging who the pedophiles are in the congregation", the most relevant issue that will hurt! Inept elders who forgot to call the police on "brother Chester" who loved little girls to sit on his lap, in field service and Mac Donalds" These is the meat of abuse!

talesin

Actually the WTS has been fair on this issue, qouting St Paul's words regarding child discipline.

NOT TRUE

Never in my fifty years has the WTS encouraged anyone to humiliate their children in front of others.

Your experience is different from mine. This is a blanket statement about the whole organization? Then it is also an untruth.

The elders would counsel parents to beat their children from the platform. I've said this on other threads.

"And when you take your children out to the back room, that's when we REALLY want to hear them".

That is a DIRECT QUOTE that I remember from my childhood. And oh yes, you could hear the little kids getting the BELT or the WOODEN SPOON and crying out ,,, I know, I was one of them.

It's important to know that the history of this CULT has been one which always has denigrated and abused children. That makes the truth about covering up pedophilia more believable, as it just continues the Watchtower TM tradition of having NO respect for children and treating them like PROPERTY.

This thread is NOT hyperbole, and if you are going to attack someone for bringing up older subjects, there are lots of threads, such as the Shimler (sp) threads, which everyone seems to think are QUITE valid --- why try discourage this young person from valid discussions.

t

Band on the Run

The Ministry School was utter agony for me. If I could have played a male role, it would have been a lot easier. The faux dialogue, seated, with another sister, was hell. I skipped school time to memorize my part. Is a ten year old truly able to argue (admonish) whatever little a woman is permitted to do. My teachers praised me at school. Even the nastiest teachers never treated serious behavioral problems the way the MS did. I was so nervous and a cold was starting. My voice cracked. This might be funny if I were thirty. The entire KH laughed at me. Nothing kindly was said. There was nothing to praise in my efforts-- not even we know it is scary in the beginning. My father used it as proof that I was completely no good compared to my brother. He never praised my siblings if I were not present. My gm was furious. There was the biggest battle in the car on the way home.

The sweet part was that my gm asserted herself to defend me. He told to shut up that she was just a no good woman. All women were no good, a trait learned from Rutherford at Bethel. She said he had no right to do what he was doing to me. It was one of the very rare times that an adult told him what to do with himself.

My father would screech "Spare the rod....." and my mother would screech from Paul, "do not provoke your children" for hours. All I learned at the KH was shame. When I was young, I wondered why I just could not be good and obey. Later, I was placing orders for a gun or knife at school.

NewChapter

I remember a sister's son did something pretty bad---it really was. But another sister thought the child had got off too easy---possibly. She told me that if it had been her child, she never would have let him forget it. She would have brought it up everyday in conversation to shame him. She would have brought it up in front of others, to humiliate him. Anytime he expressed an opinion, she would have remarked---yeah, well remember, you did this. . . She actually explained in detail that this is how she would have continued the punishment----for YEARS---her words.

There is DEFINITELY a culture of shame and humiliation in this cult. This is not over the top. It's completely set up that way. HELL, the bible is set up that way---

NC

wha happened?

sounds like another serial killer in training NC

Band on the Run

I've told the story of my three year old sister lightly brushing the chair in front of her. A Bethelite, not working at the convention but with his hands on his gf, took his belt off and handed it to my mom so she could beat the hell out of the three year old terror. If he were paying attention to the speaker, he would not noticed the light brushing. My mom refused to beat her. She gave the belt back to him. We knew people higher up at Bethel and prob. could have caused him grief. My sister was not his child. He had no duty to give my mom an implement of pain and torture. My sister should have received candy and toys for being so well behaved for her age.

I never recall brothers acknowledging that children are not little adults.

I recently had a big argument with a proponent of home schooling. Without public school, I would have received no encouragement. School was a haven from the Witnesses.

Chemical Emotions

That is just...horrible. God, I am so glad I only got a few spankings, not beatings, as a kid.

TO ALL LURKERS: the WTS approves of parents humilating their children!

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