Hypocritical statement in the July 15th Watchtower denouncing those who "forsake" family members on religious grounds (page 2)

wha happened?

so is the act of extreme rejection the issue, or is it only because it occassionaly happenes to dubs that is the issue

palmtree67

or is it only because it occassionaly happenes to dubs that is the issue

Exactly.

I've mostly seen "worldly" families desperately trying to maintain contact/closeness with members who became JW's. While the JW is constantly having it drilled into their head at every meeting that family members are now "bad association".

wha happened?

Mine did, that is attempt to stay in touch. There was a 3 year gap when I left my family behind. They displayed concern at my new found religion, but for the most part kept any comments on the down low. Now u should have heard some of the comments dubs had about my "worldly family".

JW GoneBad

“just one more very recent example of Watchtower hypocrisy.”

Excellent observation Cedars. The New Testament cautions close to 30 times about the need to guard against hypocrisy. For example Romans 12:9 states …”Let YOUR love be without hypocrisy.”

Paragraph 9 (above) clearly is another example of how JWs are two-faced. WT magazine is indeed the epitome of hypocrisy!

wha happened?

it shocks me on the level on control the WT has. I just can't believe the high majority that just can't seem to connect the dots

steve2

good thread cedars! JWs have refined hypocrisy to an unblushed artform. Their publications are completely devoid of irony and a sense of proportion. The 'ain't-it-awful' tripe in the Watchtower paragraph you nicely respond to seems like something lifted straight out of the 1930s.

They remain silent about their shameful disowning of their own flesh and blood and cry 'persecution' when non-witnesses disown them.

palmtree67

I know what you mean, Wha.

The second statement there: "....many of these forsaken ones have found help and protection in the congregation...."

...it's like they acknowledge the damage done by rejection, but seem to think when *they* do it, it's okay....

00DAD

I'm a victim of this "extreme rejection". I've had to endure it for nearly three years.

Recently I wrote a letter to the elders requesting they rescind my disfellowshipping. Even though I have not engaged in the activity for which I was disfellowshipped for a year they refused my request. Why? Because I quite attending meetings last summer.

When they asked why I quit attending I said because I was discouraged that even though I was no longer doing the activity for which I was disfellowshipped I was still being refused the "love", "mercy" and "forgiveness" that they so publicly claim to have. As a result I was discouraged.

They said I have to go to meetings. I asked how long or how many.

The answer was "months".

I pressed, "How many months?"

The answer was "a number of months."

I pressed further, "What does that mean? That is so vague! What number? One, two, 100?"

Their final answer was just to repeat, "A number of months."

I asked them for a scripture to back that up, or at least a WT article or even a quote from their elders manual. They of course said, "There isn't one, you just have to go to meetings."

I responded, "So you're insisting on enforcing a non-scriptural rule that isn't even articulated in any publication by the WTBTS?"

They said, "That's right. You have a bad attitude."

I referenced the account of the Prodigal Son quoting Jesus words,

So he rose and went to his father. While he was yet a long way off, his father caught sight of him and was moved with pity, and he ran and fell upon his neck and tenderly kissed him. - Luke 15:20

I said I'm just looking for some forgiveness, some mercy and some compassion.

They responded by saying, "You obviously don't have a contrite heart."

In frustration I objected, "How could you possibly know the condition of my heart? You have talked to me in three years and now you think in under half an hour you can determine the condition of my heart!"

"All I can tell you is that I know I am forgiven by God. Now it's up to you to respond to that forgiveness."

Things got worse after that ...

Cedars, you're wrong. They are not hypocrites. They are the worst kind of fucking hypocrites ever. I hope there is a God and he makes them pay for their hypocrisy in a perfect and just way.

Right now, the ONLY thing preventing me from trying to rebuild a broken relationship with my two sons is the arbitrary ruling of a retired electrician, an ex-prison guard and a self-taught computer geek that are under the delusion that their completely un-Christian behavior is somehow approved by God.

At one point one of them even said, "You know if we were under the Mosaic Law you'd be stoned for what you did!"

I responded by saying, "We aren't under the Mosaic Law any more. Christ did away with the law." By that time I was feeling so beat up and abused I'd really had it. I wished I would have had the presence of mind to say, "Haven't you read John chapter 8 where Jesus says to the crowd, 'You with out sin cast the first stone.'"?

I sure as hell didn't receive any HELP, PROTECTION or WARMTH from these little Pharisees.

00DAD

Black Sheep

One of my JWs tried trashing a member of another church for throwing one of their kids out for refusing to preach their message.

He then tried defending the JWs by denying they would do such a thing.

None of the JWs present at the time tried to correct him.

tootired2care

Wow them lecturing us about freedom - is like the pope lecturing the public on child sexual abuse!

Hypocritical statement in the July 15th Watchtower denouncing those who "forsake" family members on religious grounds

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