Are religionists and atheists on the same team? (page 12)

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Are religionists and atheists on the same team?

Do they both lead people away from God?

This really doesn't apply to an atheist anyway...since an atheist does not have any belief in a God to lead anyone away from in the first place.

You have to have a belief in a God for this statement to have any meaning whatsoever...and if you believe, what difference would it make what anyone says? Is God so ineffectual that he can't hold onto his believers..maybe he should support their faith a bit more.... if he is real.

As the old saying goes...you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink...so maybe believers should stop blaming others for their lack of faith and lay the blame fair and square where it belongs....on themselves...and their God.

Maybe God is on this imaginary team...maybe he drives people away in droves. He may just do more harm than anyone or anything else could for his lack of intervention....if he is real....he may be the leader of his own demise.

N.drew

an atheist does not have any belief in a God to lead anyone away from in the first place.

A good point.

But some atheists are cunning. Someone who might have sought to find God might be convinced not to because they listened to arguments against the existence of God. They might be convinced to stop seeking, and to stop asking.

"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you" Matthew 7:7

So I agree that an atheist should not be able to drew a person away from God. But isn't it probable that an intelligent argument against the existence of God can prevent some people from ever looking?

Perry

I don't really think so. But neither one can see God.

NewChapter

But isn't it probable that an intelligent argument against the existence of God can prevent some people from ever looking?

No. This is not a problem.

NC

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some atheists are cunning....

LMAO

palmtree67

So I agree that an atheist should not be able to drew a person away from God. But isn't it probable that an intelligent argument against the existence of God can prevent some people from ever looking?

I believe its more probable that RELIGIONISTS draw more people away from God than athiests.

tec

My son is an atheist. Last year he was a theist. I respect him for whatever his stance is... just as I am expecting him to respect me for mine. I'm probably losing out a little in that ;), but that is more than likely the 'teen' in him.

Okay, funny story that just happened... and ex pands a bit on this last bit ;).

I am helping my son with his math (which he is normally really good at but he hates showing his work... and you have no choice when doing orders of operations).

He says, slightly frustrated, "For Science sake!"

I glance down at him. "wha...?

He grins. "Well I don't believe in God, so I'm not going to say for God's sake... sort of like saying sciencedammit."

I laughed. "That's pretty cool."

"Yeah, I figured out a way not to blaspheme against your..." He pauses and glances away, a devilish glint in his eye, "... your fake God."

Then he glanced up at me with a crooked, pleased, little grin.

"Well... mostly."

"MmHmm."

Brat. Cute brat though.

Peace,

tammy

jgnat

I am jumping in to this conversation late. I suggest that all dogmatists, regardless of stripe, are annoying.

One annoying characteristic of the dogmatist is that they will over-simpify a differing view, and then attack the simplified version. This kills all hope of dialogue, reconciliation or common ground.

There are athiests who are dogmatists and those who are not. The same with religionists.

NewChapter

My atheist brother came over yesterday. He has an amputated leg, and had a problem where he was on his kitchen floor in excruciating pain and couldn't get up. His girlfriend called me when he finally got to his phone, to make sure I'd be on hand if the problem intensified. It got better.

So he came over, and in just about 60 seconds said:

I was praying to god that I could get up

I hope to god this clears up

Thank god I feel better

I made fun of him. He rolled his eyes.

Speech---deeply ingrained.

NC

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