How do I hear/feel God?

by doinmypart 473 Replies latest jw friends

  • Qcmbr
    Qcmbr

    Suffice to say if AG talked in public the way she talks here she would be marched out of public engagements regularly and would need bodyguards because in the real world you don't get to talk so obviously out of both sides of your mouth. When I was a Christian I would have kept very far away from her.

    I'm wondering whether justmom is one of AGs family members alluded to in an earlier post. The unwavering support of several posters regardless of what AG posts seems very odd - almost staged. Surely any sensible poster can read a sentence by AG that is a string of ad homineum attacks sandwiched by some trite mantras to peace and see it is not a peace offering but a crude attempt to get away with rudeness by dressing it in piety. She's even admitted that she says 'peace' not because she means it ( at last actual truth ) but because her alter ego, Leprous Christ requires it. It is a shame he does not require correct use of quotes but I'll have to settle for the slight reduction of miscapitalised words.

    I don't particularly care whether AG in real life feeds homeless children with her own breast milk and rescues kittens from burning buildings. What I do care about is that any and all responses to her fantastical postings unless they are praise and adoration are met with a deluge of personal attacks. It's tiring it's not needed and it has created a culture all of her own making. There are several posters of the faithful who have managed to present their views without a need to pull every psychological, manipulative or nasty tool from their arsenal to do so. Fortunately most faithful believers arent on a divine mission to preach and so can make way for discussion. Why is this lone woman on JWN - if she genuinely was sent on a mission from a genuine being why oh why choose an obscure, niche group to preach to?

    On topic. When I thought I was feeling the spirit it was a very visceral and physical response which felt like a kind of high, it was exciting, fulfilling and I felt very empowered. When I felt the spirit it definitely was a mind altering state and it was like a very focused inner glow that I wanted to replicate as often as possible. When in that state it felt very natural to imagine another reality where this adrenaline and endorphin mixture was the norm and the hum drum dullness of regular life was banished. I could get myself to this state if I prayed, read Mormon scripture ( sorry but as inspirational scripture it has the edge over the bible) or if I read about the early history of the church ( lots of claimed miracles, healings and so forth - an inspiring building of the actual kingdom of god so I supposed.) When I felt the 'spirit' I had a generous feeling towards people and strived not to be contentious. This I have subsequently realised was a marrying of bias with emotion (this is how I was taught a Mormon should be so when I felt the spirit I tried to act out the mental ideal, I tried to be Christlike.) Now I still feel the 'spirit' but I no longer associate it to an external force and simply recognise it as a physiological response that does not require me to play act a xian role but can be used to express my authentic self.

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    I may or may not respond to your answer....I'm off....goodnight JWN..

  • tec
    tec

    Can you not see that the same 'group' that is against Shelby are the same people who are against anyone of faith in Christ, in spirit... perceived insults or no? Can you not see that the same group does all the things that you and they accuse Aguest of doing? There are a lot of insults in this thread, and I don't see how, if you read back, anyone can call Shelby out for what they think are insults from her while making their own insults TO her... and then NOT be a hypocrite at the same time.

    As to the odd/staged support that you are suspicous of, I offer the following:

    I am not Shelby's flesh and blood family.

    Sab is not Shelby's flesh and blood family.

    Outlaw is not her flesh and blood family, and he does not make claim to the same faith.

    MrsJones is not her flesh and blood family, and she does not make claim to the same faith.

    I don't know about Justmom, or anyone else. But as to the above, these I DO know about.

    Peace,

    tammy

  • tec
    tec

    Since she admits that she can be mean Still (and I learned... from her, actually... that we should let people speak for themselves about their own nature), then there is no reason she would not admit to it if she WERE being mean on this thread.

    What she is like personally may be very different to what I see here. I am not commenting on what she is like in person....I am commenting about what I see here. And it's not nice. No matter what sort of spin you want to put on it.

    Yeah, but see, you've thought (and think) some pretty false things about me too. So just because you think you see something does not make it right. And that is why you have people speaking up for her. Because they DO know her, and they speak up according to what they actually know as opposed to what some who do not know her, think.

    Aguest could be peaches and cream, sugar and all things nice, and y'all would still take issue with her.

    Peace,

    tammy

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    I don't like Aguests comments...I do not know Shelby.

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    If she's nice....she hides it well. And as for you tec....the day you disagree with Aguest...will be the day hell freezes over.

    ***or the day you stop believing....whichever comes first***

  • LouBelle
    LouBelle

    waaay off topic.

    So How do I hear/feel god?

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    Thru the many useful and timely publications of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of course!

  • Chariklo
    Chariklo

    Tec, no offence, but it is just not true that the same "group" that you say are against Shelby are those who are against anyone of faith in Christ or spirit.

    It's a huge mistake to lump people together like that.

    Nor do I think that anyone at all is "against Shelby", as you put it. However, many people dislike intensely someone uttering "dear" and "peace to you" when all their words indicate exactly the opposite.

    That is hypocrisy, pure and simple, highly objectionable anywhere and on this forum particularly so, since people come to JWN for many reasons but very often bruised and battered from experiences with the Watchtower.

    As regards this particular thread, it was begun by doinmypart, who wrote

    This is a serious question.
    I know people that hear/feel God (and see postings about people's experiences), but I have not experienced this. I have never heard anything audibly (or otherwise) nor "felt" anything inwardly.
    I've prayed, read, quieted my thoughts, etc...but still nothing.

    He really wanted to know. He said it was a serious question. Some people, including myself, sorry about that, treated it a little lightly once or twice, but also seriously too. When the person who posts as AGuest but whom many of you call Shelby came to the thread, she could have joined in in kind, but instead she preaches, pontificates, judges others (as you, disappointingly, came close to doing above) and altogether hijacked and destroyed doinmypart's serious thread.

    She's done it before, many times. I usually avoid threads where she does this, because it is frankly horrid, but in this case I was already involved with the thread before it turned nasty. .

    As for all the attacks on Cofty, I find them unspeakable. Cofty is a thoroughly straightforward good guy, and this is bang out of order. I'm astonished, dumbfounded, at some of the people who've been involved in this, people I've always thought really well of.

    I think there is more going on here in regard to the support of Shelby/AGuest, and I suspect that although I'm in my fourteenth month of membership here I'm still too new to know the full story, so I'll make allowances.

    But I cannot sit by and see Cofty treated like this, nor see all the justification of AGuest's posting style above, without comment.

    So there you are. I hope it will all stop. It's the sort of thing that makes people not want to come onto a forum.

  • transhuman68
    transhuman68
    How do I hear/feel God?

    D****d if I know! I guess if 'God' is love, then some people do experience moments when they feel God... some kind of sublime emotional experience, maybe once or twice in a lifetime- well, so they say...

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